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Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:40 am
by Mickey107
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What Florida may have
pushed suggested Luongo do;
https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/n ... lly-retire
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Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:40 am
by Meds
The fact that Florida may have lost out on Panarin because of this is a small comfort.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:36 am
by SKYO
Boeser confident new deal will be done.
Restricted free-agent forward Brock Boeser isn't worried about securing a new contract with the Vancouver Canucks.
"I feel confident we're going to get the deal done and everything's going to work out," Boeser said, according to Jessi Pierce of NHL.com. "I love Vancouver. The organization, the city, the fans, everything's great there, and I want to be there for a long time."
"He's a core player and a building block for our group," general manager Jim Benning said. "We have a plan in place and we're going to continue to talk with Brock and his agent and get that figured out.
"If we can move players, it makes it easier, but if we can't move players we still have a plan in place to be (cap) compliant. One option is to go into (long-term injury reserve) with (Antoine) Roussel because with his injury he is probably not going to be back until November, December."
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1796950
I figure they go 4 years - smidgen lower cap, think Timo Meier's contract.
still will be a RFA, then they can go for the mega contract - 8 years after that, lifelong Canuck.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm
by Mickey107
From Brock;
"I love Vancouver. The organization, the city, the fans, everything's great there, and I want to be there for a long time."
What sticks out about this line? LOL
I was going to say something 3 days ago. Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:40 pm
by Strangelove
micky107 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm
Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.
Doubtful.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:51 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:40 pm
micky107 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm
Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.
Doubtful.
Five years seems to be that sweet spot these days.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm
by Mickey107
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:51 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:40 pm
micky107 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm
Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.
Doubtful.
Five years seems to be that sweet spot these days.
Maybe to Brock, five is long? Maybe he's been trying for max term?
Only his hairdresser knows for sure..
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:07 pm
by nuckster
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:51 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:40 pm
micky107 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm
Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.
Doubtful.
Five years seems to be that sweet spot these days.
Got a mid-summer IPA buzz going with some effervescent 'herb'and we're chattin canuck stuff; I'm figuring that Brock gets 5-6 years at 7.75
On a different note, i am actually excited - looking fwd to this upcoming year, especially after the drudgery we've endured since 2013. Seems to me, that in the grand scheme of things, all our new acquisitions will mean 'didley' if Markstrom doesn't deliver like he did last year. Mind you, IF we have more possession time and really are more offensive, ole Marky will have a little less pressure on him.
Anyways, it'll be an interesting ride. I hope Benning is building on his contract negotiation skills - he had room to fuck up in the past, but now as the 'core' develops, the numbers game gets tighter. In the meantime, it's really awesome that we get to see if Hughes becomes Norris material and maybe EP becomes our Hart Ross and Rocket Richard candidate... or who knows, maybe Boeser.
That's enough of my late summer night van canuck diatribe.
Cheers all
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:10 pm
by Mickey107
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:48 pm
by Cherry Picker
This is the most important contract Benning has ever had to negotiate. If he gets bent over by Boeser’s agent, the team is screwed when Pettersson and Hughes need contracts in two years. He needs to make a final, fair, well-reasoned, completely justifiable using comparables offer before training camp starts. Then he needs to warn the agent that the offer needs to be signed before training camp begins or it will be off the table and only a lesser offer will be available. Then he can’t blink even if Boeser doesn’t sign and sits out the season. If he gets bent over and increases the offer once the season starts, Pettersson and Hughes will have their game plan, and the Canucks will be hooped. If he sticks to his guns, Pettersson and Hughes will know the situation when it is their turn. If he does a good job getting the kids to sign team friendly deals like Boston seems to always get, he can build a winner. If he caves like Toronto always seems to do, the Canucks will not be able to build a deep roster and will have more difficulty competing long term.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:09 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
TO made their own bed by enabling johnny pjs to shit all over the isles then run home to his maple laughs sheets.
His teammates all saw the culture of dooshbaggery the leaves are fostering and informed their agents to get they pencils sharpened accordingly.
Before you start in with the yeah butts tuner.....the proof is in that million a goal marshmallow WNs contract and mitch the bitch yanking on dumbass's hair while he slaps another overpayment out of his ass
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:15 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Hargraves isn't worried. Benning seems to do ok with RFA signings. Its the UFA or pending UFA that grab him by his jet black mane, bend him over and fuck him dry..
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:34 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Benning signed Myers and Ferland below what the moaners expected - $7 to as high as $8 Million the moaners spewed about Myers and $5 Million per year for Ferland
Rousell great signing
Eriksson came from a class of 2016 UFAs who were all BUMS!
The Beagle one irritates me although I believe he will be a great presence in the bottom 6 as this young core develops
Benning is a fucking genius to the bone
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:04 pm
by Mickey107
Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:48 pm
This is the most important contract Benning has ever had to negotiate. If he gets bent over by Boeser’s agent, the team is screwed when Pettersson and Hughes need contracts in two years. He needs to make a final, fair, well-reasoned, completely justifiable using comparables offer before training camp starts. Then he needs to warn the agent that the offer needs to be signed before training camp begins or it will be off the table and only a lesser offer will be available. Then he can’t blink even if Boeser doesn’t sign and sits out the season. If he gets bent over and increases the offer once the season starts, Pettersson and Hughes will have their game plan, and the Canucks will be hooped. If he sticks to his guns, Pettersson and Hughes will know the situation when it is their turn. If he does a good job getting the kids to sign team friendly deals like Boston seems to always get, he can build a winner. If he caves like Toronto always seems to do, the Canucks will not be able to build a deep roster and will have more difficulty competing long term.
I understand your concern. To some degree, I share it. In particular about the distinguishable necessity, of having Boeser participating from the
onset of training camp. It's important for his psych, and that of his team mates.
I also agree that Benning would be well served by displaying to the rest of the league,(players and rival GMs), that he is no push-over.
However, a player the ilk of Boeser sitting an entire season is not only a unmitigated disaster for the Canucks, but for the NHL as well.
Of note though; Not all player agent's contracts with their clients are the same. I have heard that, many actually (and even from the same
agent) differ. To what degree a player can step in and supercede his representative,s without breaching his contract with him is a private
thing that we just don't know.
For what it's worth, I read that Boeser's is about as easy going as agents go.
You are right to be wary of >>>>>>>wait for it >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 th 3 years from now.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:13 pm
by ESQ
micky107 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm
Maybe to Brock, five is long? Maybe he's been trying for max term?
Only his hairdresser knows for sure..
I think NHL players are finally copying the NBA style of superstar contract - 4/5 years, and maximizing earning potential on the 3rd contract - that's when they'll really hit it out of the park financially.
Mackinnon is the cautionary tale - superstar in the making, locked in too early. Imagine if he'd signed a 4 year deal? It would have been expiring this year, probably doubling his salary for the next 4 years.
I don't think its a coincidence that all of the key RFAs haven't signed, in the same year that NBA UFAs have cashed in like never before - obviously that includes Kawhi, but freakin' Kevin Durant got a 4 year $40 mil contract, when he won't play at all in year one, and the 4th year is a player option!
I wonder if the franchise tagging is something the players will fight for in the next CBA, and that could also influence the RFAs.
