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Per wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:17 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:07 am Hey Per, the positives with glaciers melting is maybe these major religious artifacts will be discovered instead of just spears and wooly mammoth skeletons

https://www.livescience.com/64881-lost- ... facts.html

Afaik there are no glaciers in the Middle East.

Well, I suppose you could find some in the Elburz and Zagros mountains of Iran, which I guess might qualify as the Middle East, but I don’t think any biblical events of importance occurred right there.

Ok, my bad, thanks for clearing that up.

What will we find first? The holy grail or intelligent life on other planets. I wonder if the Greys live under Ice Caps. Apparently they are living amongst us.

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:27 am What will we find first? The holy grail or intelligent life on other planets. I wonder if the Greys live under Ice Caps. Apparently they are living amongst us.

Are you channeling your gramma Lucy here?

Per wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:51 am

Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:35 pm

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:23 pm Topper, any comments on Docs Per's sample size?

Fixed.

It’s happening all over Europe. Want some more samples? Fine.

No, I'm not looking for a war on which glaciers are shrinking and which are growing.

And if I were looking, I would want a global war rather than a European one.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:19 pm

Per wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:51 am

Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:35 pm

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:23 pm Topper, any comments on Docs Per's sample size?

Fixed.

It’s happening all over Europe. Want some more samples? Fine.

No, I'm not looking for a war on which glaciers are shrinking and which are growing.

And if I were looking, I would want a global war rather than a European one.

For some reason though (in part the Gulf Stream, I guess) climate change is going roughly twice as fast in Europe as on a global scale.
Which could of course be the reason Americans don't give a fuck. The problems aren't as obvious there yet.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/22/12462776 ... he%20world.

Canada has a negative carbon footprint….

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:22 am No. Per said that the glacier’s disappearance has revealed tools from the bronze and iron ages. The Bronze Age was 3300-1200 BC, the Iron Age came after that and is even more recent. Therefore the timeframe in reference would suggest that climate change has been a much more ongoing and rapid thing (both warming and cooling) than the millions of years ago crowd suggest.

Who is this "millions of years ago crowd"?

rats19 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:12 am Canada has a negative carbon footprint….

The Climate Scam is nothing more than the latest wealth transfer scheme by the [mod edit]

Plandemics, climate scams...fake alien invasions are next.

Hole up, grow your own food and stockpile ammunition

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:28 am

rats19 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:12 am Canada has a negative carbon footprint….

The Climate Scam is nothing more than the latest wealth transfer scheme by the [mod edit]

Plandemics, climate scams...fake alien invasions are next.

Hole up, grow your own food and stockpile ammunition

Yeehaw!!!

Topper is way ahead of everyone

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:28 am

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:22 am No. Per said that the glacier’s disappearance has revealed tools from the bronze and iron ages. The Bronze Age was 3300-1200 BC, the Iron Age came after that and is even more recent. Therefore the timeframe in reference would suggest that climate change has been a much more ongoing and rapid thing (both warming and cooling) than the millions of years ago crowd suggest.

Who is this "millions of years ago crowd"?

Lucy - the skeletal remains discovered in Ethiopia in 1974 was the first hominin to break the 3-million-year time barrier, pushing back the age of the human family to a time closer to when geneticists thought the ancestor of humans had split from the ancestor of chimpanzees

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:28 am

rats19 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:12 am Canada has a negative carbon footprint….

The Climate Scam is nothing more than the latest wealth transfer scheme by the [mod edit]

Plandemics, climate scams...fake alien invasions are next.

Hole up, grow your own food and stockpile ammunition

They're censoring us when we name them too!

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:28 am

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:22 am No. Per said that the glacier’s disappearance has revealed tools from the bronze and iron ages. The Bronze Age was 3300-1200 BC, the Iron Age came after that and is even more recent. Therefore the timeframe in reference would suggest that climate change has been a much more ongoing and rapid thing (both warming and cooling) than the millions of years ago crowd suggest.

Who is this "millions of years ago crowd"?

Were the tools lost on the ice or buried by the ice. The former seems more likely as glaciers move down hill as the mass in the upper accumulation zone pushes the lower zone further down the valley. Yes, glaciers move. How else do the erode valleys creating moraines and sediment.

If they had been abandoned on the surface then covered by the glacier they would have been ground up like the surrounding rock.

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:41 am

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:28 am

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:22 am No. Per said that the glacier’s disappearance has revealed tools from the bronze and iron ages. The Bronze Age was 3300-1200 BC, the Iron Age came after that and is even more recent. Therefore the timeframe in reference would suggest that climate change has been a much more ongoing and rapid thing (both warming and cooling) than the millions of years ago crowd suggest.

Who is this "millions of years ago crowd"?

Were the tools lost on the ice or buried by the ice. The former seems more likely as glaciers move down hill as the mass in the upper accumulation zone pushes the lower zone further down the valley. Yes, glaciers move. How else do the erode valleys creating moraines and sediment.

If they had been abandoned on the surface then covered by the glacier they would have been ground up like the surrounding rock.

Exactly. These are objects that have been lost on top of the glaciers (or "ice patches"), then covered by snow and not seen again till today.

And as I mentioned before, there are no traces of humans inhabiting Scandinavia before the ice age, because everything that was here before the gigantic ice sheet has been ground into dust. For that reason we also have barely any fossils here, but lots of sand and gravel. There are only a handful of places where we have fossil bearing sedimentary rock. Mainly the islands of Öland and Gotland and parts of the southern tip of Sweden.
Other than that everything has been ground away, just leaving granite, gneiss, porhyritic rock and leptite. Quite boring imesho.
https://www.mindat.org/photo-1017584.html

Apparently they also differentiate between glaciers, that move, and "ice patches" that are stuck in the same place. The ice patches are the ones that provide most finds, because even stuff that has been lost on top of a glacier can get ground into pieces as the glacier travels. Especially if it's in the front end of the glacier. If it's at the back end of the glacier, it can be dropped behind and in as good condition as something that was dropped on a stationary ice patch.

Sweden set another heat record the other day. For the first time in recorded history we reached more than 30 degrees C in september!

In the city of Helsingborg the temperature reached 31.1 degrees on Sep 4th.
The previous record temperature for september was 29.1 and was set on September 1st 1971.

Yet, this is of course nothing compared to Phoenix, Arizona:

Unrelenting heat: Phoenix hits 100 degrees for the 100th day in a row

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/weat ... 063509007/

In real degrees that's like 38 C, so pretty damn hot.
I can see why the Coyotes had to relocate.

Dr Patrick Moore on climate change

https://x.com/ryangerritsen/status/1842186121322938787

Any wonder why Green Peace purged this founder from their history and archives.

My understanding of the climate change issue is that the earth is warming too rapidly, not that we shouldn't let Earth get warmer. He only addresses the latter.