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Raile wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:14 pm hey, kick Boeser to the curb for all I care, I like him but there'd be no love lost. I just don't want plumbers in our top 6. No Suter's bricking a tap in in the playoffs thank you very much! 8-)
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Agreed.

We are not going anywhere with Pius Suter in our top 6.

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A few comments on the draft and Free Agency;

As communicated at the time of the draft to another poster 6’1”, 6’1”, 6’1”, 6’3”, 6’3”. Sure, they are later round picks with limited chance of making the league but there are no smurfs. No Rathbones, Lil’Trojans or Schroeders in the group. There is a Julie Brown song in there.

Free agency is more big bodies. Take note Cohog and Garland, you need to play bigger than the tape measure has you. We know Garland already does that.

Jake replaces the failed ex-leaf…hopefully. The bar is low and I suspect he will be an upgrade. Too long on term for my liking of the deal but that is the cost of July 1 top of your list.

Heinin and Sherwood are the big bodies they should have been targeting at the trade deadline. Trades don’t always happen, it takes two to tango, but they got their big body forwards. Their contracts make the over payment for Dakota look even worse than when he signed.

Could be interesting competition for the spots along side Miller-Boeser and Scooter-Jake. Are Dakota and Garland fixed to Blugar? CoHog, Pod, PDG, Aman, Sherwood, Heinin looking at who moves up and who plays Pope’s Bishop. Quite a dog’s breakfast. I can see Amnan, PDG and CoHog or combo them being moved for late pics and a bag of pucks allowing Sasson, Karlson, Bains and Letterkenny call ups as the need arises.

Can Pod earn his spot with Miller and Brock? Can Cohog bluff his way into playing with Scooter and Jake? Hienin had 17 goals and 19 assists last year. Those are slightly better than Dakota numbers. Don’t be surprised if he gets a top 6 tryout.

No replacement for Lindholm. Why the rental was done remains a mystery and it was without a doubt, a rental from day 1. Playoff revenue for the Aqualungs is the likely answer and not that bad of a trade off in the long run.

A bunch of 3rd and 4th line guys competing for 1st and 2nd line duty with a 3rd line guy already penciled in on the 2nd line.

Zed becomes a Kuz cap dump sacrifice.

Desharnais becomes the Gonchar-Foote project de jour. I see him at #7 until they have him up to speed. If he can work out in the longer term this could be a very good signing. I see this a either a boom or bust scenario.

Forbert comes in as the new Cole. Place holder for Willander and/or McWard. Willander likely needs time in Abby after he finishes school but who knows. Kid is good.

It means that Jules has earned a promotion. He made great progress last season? For now, Jules, Forbert and Desharnais will be a nice competition to watch in camp for the 5-7 spots. Friedman - oh well.

Word from RoboSwede of not wanting to play the LTIR game with Poolman’s contract. If they were to go the LITR route, they’d have to paper somewhere around Tucker’s $2.5M to Abby to make opening day roster without loosing out to waiver claims, or deciding who is expendable (PGD, Friedman & Aman would be my guess - Aman could be the Dries replacement in Abby).

That could be a bargaining chip to waiver eligible Silovs.
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Nice analysis.

I owe UW a post on DeBrusk which I hope to get to so I'll reserve comment other than to say I have more hope for him than you seem to.

Skating is one reason, more team speed we need and 27 goals in 86 playoff games including 11 goals and 21 points in his past 27 are positives.

I'm with you on Joshua and as I stated here a day or two back that money saved maybe frees up a different move like, for instance, allowing us to sign Zadorov.

I'm a big fan of the Heinen and Sherwood moves for physicality and speed reasons and the ex-Bruin has shown a scoring touch.

I also like Heinens character leaving a large amount of money on the table to play here....positive sign what with the Leave player avoidance news today.

I'd like to see another top 6 move.

You don't mention Raty but I'd like to see what we have there.

Not a huge fan of Meyers as a top 4 as a result of these moves either.
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DeBrusk – Pettersson – Heinen
Hog/Pod/Sher Miller - Boeser
Joshua – Blueger - Garland
Hog/Pod/Sher – Suter - Hog/Pod/Sher
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If they don’t trade Poolman’s LTIR contract, I’m predicting they’ll sign Silovs for exactly 1,015,833 which is their current cap space 240,833 plus 775,000 the contract hit of Friedman, Juulsen or PDG - lowest on the club. Once Silovs signs, the Canucks have to either waive or trade one of their current skaters (probably Friedman or PDG) to get down to a 23 man roster. Management feels good when they have exactly zero dollars in cap space to start the season, so they can accrue the maximum cap space when injuries occur.
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donlever wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:43 pm Nice analysis.

I owe UW a post on DeBrusk which I hope to get to so I'll reserve comment other than to say I have more hope for him than you seem to.

Skating is one reason, more team speed we need and 27 goals in 86 playoff games including 11 goals and 21 points in his past 27 are positives.

I'm with you on Joshua and as I stated here a day or two back that money saved maybe frees up a different move like, for instance, allowing us to sign Zadorov.

I'm a big fan of the Heinen and Sherwood moves for physicality and speed reasons and the ex-Bruin has shown a scoring touch.

I also like Heinens character leaving a large amount of money on the table to play here....positive sign what with the Leave player avoidance news today.

I'd like to see another top 6 move.

You don't mention Raty but I'd like to see what we have there.

Not a huge fan of Meyers as a top 4 as a result of these moves either.
I could see Jules working his way into a stay at home 3-4 guy. He took great strides last season and while flattening, I don't think he has flatlined his development curve. Admittedly a stretch. Despite some high profile give aways, he has a very good first pass out of the zone, hits like a truck, is a fearless shot blocker.

He needs more attention to detail on his breakout pass to avoid those give aways (was he worse than Hughes or Hronek?) and he needs to read the incoming play better to know when and when not to go for the bone crushing hit just outside the blueline.

I didn't see much that stood out for promise in Raty's cup of coffee in the NHL a couple of years ago. Maybe the Sedins are working a miracle with him.

Yeah, I'd rather over pay to have Zed than overpay to have Dakota.
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Topper wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:08 pm I didn't see much that stood out for promise in Raty's cup of coffee in the NHL a couple of years ago. Maybe the Sedins are working a miracle with him.
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Topper wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:08 pm I could see Jules working his way into a stay at home 3-4 guy. He took great strides last season and while flattening, I don't think he has flatlined his development curve. Admittedly a stretch. Despite some high profile give aways, he has a very good first pass out of the zone, hits like a truck, is a fearless shot blocker.

He needs more attention to detail on his breakout pass to avoid those give aways (was he worse than Hughes or Hronek?) and he needs to read the incoming play better to know when and when not to go for the bone crushing hit just outside the blueline.
Do you see him working his game to being a complimentary top-4 that could be Hughes partner? This allowing Hronek to pair with Soucy to distribute the upper end puck moving D between top-4…..or did Nashville’s and Edmonton’s targeting of Hronek make that a bad idea?
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We basically traded Horvat and a 2nd to get Hronek.

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Do you consider this a good trade for Vancouver?
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:54 pm We basically traded Horvat and a 2nd to get Hronek.

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Do you consider this a good trade for Vancouver?
Hronek and 1.25M in cap space
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Juulsen's development was stalled when he took a serious hit that kept him out of the lineup in his first year.He took two pucks to the eye in the same game. He suffered a serious eye injury and developed vision problems that took time to correct. He is former 1st rounder with a lot of potential. Until our current D coaches he really hasn't had great NHL coaching. My biggest criticism of him is he often gets out of position looking for that big hit. But those are teachable things.

I like the kid and I think he can become a very dependable 3rd pairing guy. He will never be a big points producer for us, but he doesn't have to be. He is good on the PK and a tough nut in his own zone. All of his warts are teachable, IMO. He is 27 and by the time the Myers contract is upheld will be 30. So yes, I think he can develop into that reliable 3rd pairing physical, stay at home PKer for us, if he is still with the team. Sooner or later he is going to want that 2-3 million per year as his career is more over than starting.
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Topper wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:58 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:54 pm We basically traded Horvat and a 2nd to get Hronek.

Beauvillier = bum
Raty = bum

Do you consider this a good trade for Vancouver?
Hronek and 1.25M in cap space
Being how difficult it is to get a good middle aged RHD I’d say it’s a pretty fair trade for Vancouver. The Willander pick will be huge for us, hopefully he develops fast cracks the lineup next season.
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