Just Not ready

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Re: Just Not ready

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So 5th is off your "only guy that gets it mic drop" list now?

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donlever wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:32 pm So 5th is off your "only guy that gets it mic drop" list now?

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Topper wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:57 pm
rikster wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:26 pm Mëds thinks...
And yet he’s orders of magnitude better equipped than the drama teacher we’ve had for the past 9 years.
He may be, but that's a low bar to rise above and it doesn't address the fact that his resume reeks of incompetence as compared to the person he will likely face off against in an election...

He looks as ready to lead the country as does his Shadow Cabinet...A Shadow Minister of Employments claim to fame is she owned the number 1 wine store in BC for 13 years...His Shadow finance minister was a home builder...His Shadow minister of housing is a former mayor...

It's hard to get to know the future Cabinet members because the Conservative website is whaky....I'd have fired my digital manager if they ran such a flawed site...

When you look at the lack of talent in the shadow cabinet its understandable that someone as unqualified as PP could become leader of the Party...

And this is the group you want to lead the country?
Are you suggesting Carney has more than a three ring circus of cabinet level failures to choose from? Or are you looking deeper down the line up at those too dumb for even Trudeau to put in his cabinet?
I'm still waiting for something other than JT was a disaster to give reason to vote for PP...

The fact that you haven't or can't speaks to the issues I have with the Party and PP...

Telling us over and over and over and over again what a lousy Prime minister JT was worked when JT was running to be Prime minister again, but that's in the past and what Canadians want is reason to vote for PP now that Trudeau is out....

The Conservatives wanted an attack dog when they chose PP to be the leader and he was very good at it while Trudeau was in the picture but now he has to give us reasons why he is the most qualified which is something you and the Party seem to struggle with...
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PP’s life depends on JT being in office. Opposition is his forte. Without JT, he’s lost, very lost. It’s kind of fun to watch how hopeless he is without him. There’s nothing there.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:16 pm
donlever wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:32 pm So 5th is off your "only guy that gets it mic drop" list now?

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:41 pm PP’s life depends on JT being in office. Opposition is his forte. Without JT, he’s lost, very lost. It’s kind of fun to watch how hopeless he is without him. There’s nothing there.
It's like Blob without the Dude.

Mëds without Swedes.

Cuz without ... well, you know.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:41 pm PP’s life depends on JT being in office. Opposition is his forte. Without JT, he’s lost, very lost. It’s kind of fun to watch how hopeless he is without him. There’s nothing there.
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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:25 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:16 pm
donlever wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:32 pm So 5th is off your "only guy that gets it mic drop" list now?

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Unfortunately I am hovering over the adjustment papers as we speak. It was a sad moment for me.
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The Conservatives have said how they will approach the housing issue, energy, bloated civil service, oncoming tariffs and ever expanding budgets. If some are too deaf to listen that is not my problem.

It is a very Reagan like program of government getting out of the way instead of trying to be all to everyone. The Trudeau Liberal government has been the most left wing socialist government Canada has ever seen and it has not worked.

Justin has spent the money in our great grandchildren's piggy banks.

The six leadership candidates for the Liberal Party are running to be Canada's next Prime Minister and need to start laying out their policy of how they will address issues facing Canadians.

To date they are (except Gould), against the carbon tax in name only. All advocate for some form of a carbon tax but won't define what it is. Gould's concession is to pause the coming April 1 increase.

On tariffs they all want counter tariffs, we saw, in a blink of an eye, how that worked with Colombia, combined with covid like government bailouts for Canadians and Canadian businesses. We have seen how that works. Crank up the printing press, devalue the dollar further and line the pockets of Liberal friends and family (hello Mr Baylis, Randy and Randy).
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Well this sounds like the sort of thing that guys like rikster want…..so long as it’s done by someone with a satisfactory resume.
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Topper wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:55 am The Conservatives have said how they will approach the housing issue, energy, bloated civil service, oncoming tariffs and ever expanding budgets. If some are too deaf to listen that is not my problem.

It is a very Reagan like program of government getting out of the way instead of trying to be all to everyone. The Trudeau Liberal government has been the most left wing socialist government Canada has ever seen and it has not worked.

Justin has spent the money in our great grandchildren's piggy banks.

The six leadership candidates for the Liberal Party are running to be Canada's next Prime Minister and need to start laying out their policy of how they will address issues facing Canadians.

To date they are (except Gould), against the carbon tax in name only. All advocate for some form of a carbon tax but won't define what it is. Gould's concession is to pause the coming April 1 increase.

On tariffs they all want counter tariffs, we saw, in a blink of an eye, how that worked with Colombia, combined with covid like government bailouts for Canadians and Canadian businesses. We have seen how that works. Crank up the printing press, devalue the dollar further and line the pockets of Liberal friends and family (hello Mr Baylis, Randy and Randy).
Have you studied or even read the Conservative platform?..

You should, and maybe after you've read it you could give us your thoughts on their carbon policy or their housing policy?

Its kinda of what you'd expect from a liquor salesperson and a guy swinging a hammer for a living and a leader who has lived his working life living off the Canadian taxpayers...

Regarding the spat with Colombia, Colombia has been taking detainees for years....what they objected to was the way the detainees were being treated by the new Trump administration and decided to prevent some planes from landing...

Trump threatened tariffs so the Colombians threatened their own tariffs on things like coffee and oil ...

Rather than asking his supporters to pay more to fill up their tanks at the pumps or pay more for their morning cup of coffee, the Trump administration backed down and promised to treat the detainees in a humane way...

Regarding Covid bailouts, you really should educate yourself before spouting your nonsense...

My companies received covid assistance which meant that none of our staff were laid off, some of the relief $ were forgiven and some were clawed back because of our bottom line...

Was their abuse? Of course there was abuse and fraud, but at some point we have to stop blaming government and start blaming the individuals who defraud the government...
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Just what are the policies of the Liberal leadership contenders? I would like to read them or hear them. They after all set to become the Prime Minister. Do you not believe Canadians should know?

The Conservatives have been clear on their policies in interviews around the country and in speeches in Parliament. I'm certain more will be fleshed out and added when they are running to form the next government once an election is called. For now the are the official opposition. That is their role.

You deride the potential Conservative Cabinet but are willfully ignorant of the failed sycophants in the Liberal cabinets of the past 10 years

How many ethics violations? How many scandals have they run from? WE and the Green Slush Fund ended with Trudeau proroguing Parliament (run away, run away). How many lost their jobs in disgrace? How many held their positions in disgrace? How many Constitutional violations?

These are the same folks any new leader will have to choose from.

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rikster wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:48 am Regarding the spat with Colombia, Colombia has been taking detainees for years....what they objected to was the way the detainees were being treated by the new Trump administration and decided to prevent some planes from landing...

Trump threatened tariffs so the Colombians threatened their own tariffs on things like coffee and oil ...

Rather than asking his supporters to pay more to fill up their tanks at the pumps or pay more for their morning cup of coffee, the Trump administration backed down and promised to treat the detainees in a humane way...
Trump initiated the spat by sending deportees on military planes that arrived unannounced. Columbia rightly refused authorisation to land. Under Biden, deportees had been arriving on twice-weekly commercial and charter flights, but Trump wanted to create some drama.

Trump retaliated by imposing a 25% tariffs on Columbian exports (including petroleum and coffee). President Petro threatened to levy a retaliatory tariff on U.S. products (Colombia is one of the top five export markets for U.S. corn, about $1.14B in sales).

The interesting thing for Canada is that one-third of Columbian exports are to the US, yet they had no issue standing up to the bully to get him to back down. Canada should do the same. Allow Trump a little bit of publicity so he can declare victory for his followers, yet nothing is actually changed. Just like last time around with negotiation of the USMCA, which is not much different from NAFTA.

Yet in terms of official policy, I don't think any political candidate would want to state this publicly as it would undermine the approach by causing Trump to lose face.
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When I lived in Jamaica nearly every flight had someone in handcuff sitting with a US agent in the back row of the plane. they usually preboarded but on occasion they would be escorted on board after everyone was seated and the doors were about to close.

Putting a couple of guys on a commercial flight is different than 110 on on a military aircraft.
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Topper wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:15 am Just what are the policies of the Liberal leadership contenders? I would like to read them or hear them. They after all set to become the Prime Minister. Do you not believe Canadians should know?

The Conservatives have been clear on their policies in interviews around the country and in speeches in Parliament. I'm certain more will be fleshed out and added when they are running to form the next government once an election is called. For now the are the official opposition. That is their role.

You deride the potential Conservative Cabinet but are willfully ignorant of the failed sycophants in the Liberal cabinets of the past 10 years

How many ethics violations? How many scandals have they run from? WE and the Green Slush Fund ended with Trudeau proroguing Parliament (run away, run away). How many lost their jobs in disgrace? How many held their positions in disgrace? How many Constitutional violations?

These are the same folks any new leader will have to choose from.

Glad we now know your hand was in the cookie jar. It explains much.
I asked Mëds to explain their carbon and housing policies and got crickets...Since you chimed in why don't you give it a try?

As for the Liberal platform, let's wait until a leader has been selected and then we can debate their platform...

Speaking of scandals, PP has been involved in his fair share...

1. Senate Expense Scandal (2012–2013)

2. Robocall Scandal (2011 Election)

3. In-and-Out Scandal (2006 Election)

4. Muzzling of Scientists

5. Interference in Supreme Court Appointments (2014)

6. The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) Targeting Charities

7. Afghan Detainee Scandal

8. Alleged Election Interference & Dirty Politics

These scandals and others coupled with the fact that most Canadians blamed the Conservatives for the high cost of housing and cost of living led to the demise of Harper and PP and brought us Trudeau...

These warts are on PP's resume, and what's intereting is when you actually study the Conservative platform much of what they are promising today they were opposed to when PP was part of the governing Party back then...

And there is little in the platform that is inventive or creative, its more of the same, tired approach that isn't capable of dealing with the realities of todays economics and challenges...

Which I assume is why PP focuses on Trudeau and his failures, even today after he is gone....
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