Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 8:50 pm
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Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 9:12 pm
BS.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 9:48 pm
I was a bit surprised Foote-Job got the gig over Coach Malhotra. Ideally, I would have given the job to Manny, but felt he could use another year or 2 in Abby to build up his experience. Ironically, Foote has less experience than Manny and is quite green on the coaching resume. Oh well, at least if we need to fire him, it should be cheap.Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 6:07 pm Don Taylor says the Vancouver media will harass Adam Foote about his son's court case.
I do like having those former NHLers behind the bench, I think they have a lil more credibility with the players as they have been there and done that. I think they can relate to players better as well as they have been through the battles and know about the pressures the players are going through. I know Huggy43 likes Foote also, so that may have been a factor by mgmt to keep him happy and mitigate the loss of Tocc.
I thought former assistants here like Glen Guletzen, Mike Yeo or even Jeremy Colliton might have been good. Each of those guys have tons of NHL assistant coaching experience and even have some head coaching experience. I think each of those guys have the potential to make a big jump in their coaching games and become a respected bench boss around the league. They have the experience, gone through some failures and went on to fine tune their coaching by going to serve as a understudy from some of the great bench bosses around the league; kinda like Tocc, Greener and Mike Sullivan before they became a proven, in demand, NHL coach. Guletzen, Yeo and Colliton wouldn't cost much to hire as well and would also be cheap to fire.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 9:52 pm
Cheap to fire if they don't pan out is a good point Bert, and one we don't often consider. Geezer probably knows if he messes this up, it's coming out of the budget somewhere. PNE lawn parking only covers so much.Todd Bersnoozi wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 9:48 pmI was a bit surprised Foote-Job got the gig over Coach Malhotra. Ideally, I would have given the job to Manny, but felt he could use another year or 2 in Abby to build up his experience. Ironically, Foote has less experience than Manny and is quite green on the coaching resume. Oh well, at least if we need to fire him, it should be cheap.Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 6:07 pm Don Taylor says the Vancouver media will harass Adam Foote about his son's court case.
I do like having those former NHLers behind the bench, I think they have a lil more credibility with the players as they have been there and done that. I think they can relate to players better as well as they have been through the battles and know about the pressures the players are going through. I know Huggy43 likes Foote also, so that may have been a factor by mgmt to keep him happy and mitigate the loss of Tocc.
I thought former assistants here like Glen Guletzen, Mike Yeo or even Jeremy Colliton might have been good. Each of those guys have tons of NHL assistant coaching experience and even have some head coaching experience. I think each of those guys have the potential to make a big jump in their coaching games and become a respected bench boss around the league. They have the experience, gone through some failures and went on to fine tune their coaching by going to serve as a understudy from some of the great bench bosses around the league; kinda like Tocc, Greener and Mike Sullivan before they became a proven, in demand, NHL coach. Guletzen, Yeo and Colliton wouldn't cost much to hire as well and would also be cheap to fire.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 6:32 am
Holy fuck. On the job for 6 hours and already people write the book on the guy. Hopefully he doesn’t read the internet and let everyone form his opinions for himPicker of Cherries wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 4:20 pm Canucks will be way too defensive with Foote as head coach.
They’ll fail to outscore most teams and the team will preform miserably.
Rutherford’s master plan will only come to light when Gavin McKenna starts wearing the stinky whale next summer and Manny replaces Foote as head coach.
Foote’s only hired to drive a tank for one season.
Ever try any optimism?? Perhaps let Footes actions speak louder than words as opposed to writing the guy off before he even gets his shit to the office??
The negativity around the media and some fans is staggering. No wonder people and players don’t want to come here.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 6:34 am
The media will harass him about every. Single. Thing. They. Can.Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 6:07 pm Don Taylor says the Vancouver media will harass Adam Foote about his son's court case.
They love to hate a bad storyline, or one they can make up.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 6:47 am
Hey, I thought I was being optimistic, admittedly a little tin-foil hatty, but definitely optimistic. Tanking for McKenna is definitely a winning strategy.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 6:32 amHoly fuck. On the job for 6 hours and already people write the book on the guy. Hopefully he doesn’t read the internet and let everyone form his opinions for himPicker of Cherries wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 4:20 pm Canucks will be way too defensive with Foote as head coach.
They’ll fail to outscore most teams and the team will preform miserably.
Rutherford’s master plan will only come to light when Gavin McKenna starts wearing the stinky whale next summer and Manny replaces Foote as head coach.
Foote’s only hired to drive a tank for one season.
Ever try any optimism?? Perhaps let Footes actions speak louder than words as opposed to writing the guy off before he even gets his shit to the office??
The negativity around the media and some fans is staggering. No wonder people and players don’t want to come here.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 7:05 am
Picker of Cherries wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 6:47 amHey, I thought I was being optimistic, admittedly a little tin-foil hatty, but definitely optimistic. Tanking for McKenna is definitely a winning strategy.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 6:32 amHoly fuck. On the job for 6 hours and already people write the book on the guy. Hopefully he doesn’t read the internet and let everyone form his opinions for himPicker of Cherries wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 4:20 pm Canucks will be way too defensive with Foote as head coach.
They’ll fail to outscore most teams and the team will preform miserably.
Rutherford’s master plan will only come to light when Gavin McKenna starts wearing the stinky whale next summer and Manny replaces Foote as head coach.
Foote’s only hired to drive a tank for one season.
Ever try any optimism?? Perhaps let Footes actions speak louder than words as opposed to writing the guy off before he even gets his shit to the office??
The negativity around the media and some fans is staggering. No wonder people and players don’t want to come here.
It was about 10 years ago that people were yelling “team tank”…
The problem with Tanking is nobody ever knows when to stop.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 7:22 am
Thanks Don. You just saved those lazy f7cks from having to do any research at all. Thanks for piling on.Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 6:07 pm Don Taylor says the Vancouver media will harass Adam Foote about his son's court case.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 7:48 am
Especially if you tank for McKenna and don't get McKenna, then you have to keep on tanking.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 7:05 am The problem with Tanking is nobody ever knows when to stop.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 1:47 pm
5th, you holdin’ down the Fort in Creepers without me?5thhorseman wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 7:48 amEspecially if you tank for McKenna and don't get McKenna, then you have to keep on tanking.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 7:05 am The problem with Tanking is nobody ever knows when to stop.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 2:14 pm
Do you still wear a CC ankle bracelet and are banned from watching porn or owning firearms?
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 2:29 pm
I’m starting to warm to the idea of Foote as HC. I think they can give 3-4 years while Manny continues to develop. He also is one of the key reasons our defence is so good and he has worked with the young D. With 2 solid goaltenders and a strong defence it bodes well. Maybe he can turn Mancini into a decent stay at hone defender.
He did say they will be hiring two assistant coaches. One offensive and one defensive. Perhaps they go for a little more coaching experience there. Overall I think it is the right move as we are still a developing team in a lot of respects but one that should be able to compete for the playoffs.
Now who are we getting to play centre.
So listening to Willander’s agent he said he was surprised a deal wasn’t done 24-48 hours after his season ended and the plan/hope was the burn a year on his ELC, get NHL experience and get a playoff run with Abbotsford to give him a good head start to next season. Said there was some disappointment that I’d didn’t unfold that way but, wait for it, it is what it is. Said he was a little mystified at how it turned out. I guess he miscalculated and cost his client.
For the Canucks they get a full 3 years of his ELC.
His agent did say no hard feelings, put it past him, and they will likely have another shot at negotiating with the same team (barring a trade, my words not his). A little message in there for the Canucks I think.
He did say they will be hiring two assistant coaches. One offensive and one defensive. Perhaps they go for a little more coaching experience there. Overall I think it is the right move as we are still a developing team in a lot of respects but one that should be able to compete for the playoffs.
Now who are we getting to play centre.
So listening to Willander’s agent he said he was surprised a deal wasn’t done 24-48 hours after his season ended and the plan/hope was the burn a year on his ELC, get NHL experience and get a playoff run with Abbotsford to give him a good head start to next season. Said there was some disappointment that I’d didn’t unfold that way but, wait for it, it is what it is. Said he was a little mystified at how it turned out. I guess he miscalculated and cost his client.
For the Canucks they get a full 3 years of his ELC.
His agent did say no hard feelings, put it past him, and they will likely have another shot at negotiating with the same team (barring a trade, my words not his). A little message in there for the Canucks I think.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 2:41 pm
I still see Yogi as listed as an Assistant Coach - by hiring two more, does that mean he gets replaced? Or they going with 3 assistants like they have previously, and Gonch as a what-ever he is?Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 2:29 pm
He did say they will be hiring two assistant coaches. One offensive and one defensive. Perhaps they go for a little more coaching experience there. Overall I think it is the right move as we are still a developing team in a lot of respects but one that should be able to compete for the playoffs.
Re: Coaching Search - Candidates/Discussion and Predictions
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 3:46 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 2:29 pm I’m starting to warm to the idea of Foote as HC. I think they can give 3-4 years.....
It will be refreshing to see a coach last more than two years for a change. Still trying to get over the junk-punch from Tocchet leaving. Not so much that I love the guy so much for him to stay (honestly could care less who's coach), but just the massive statement it made on the state of the franchise and where it might be going. Seems there's something really fucked and hopeless. Or, I really hope it was just a matter of him dreaming of coaching where his heart is in Philly and simply could not pass up the opportunity. Coaching jobs are so volatile, hard to get and even harder to keep. It's gotta take something major for a guy to just walk and leave a job without being pushed out. Can't be good for karma. Tho worked out well for Paul Maurice I suppose.
This is an underrated reason why we should hope he doesn't get traded. ELC value is as good as gold. I honestly don't believe he will get traded, but given the desperation for multiple good top-6 pieces I can totally see management caving in and include Willander as part of a package they can't turn down. A Faber/Fiala-esque deal. Kings threw in their 1st as well. I really hope we don't do something like this but can absolutely see it happening. Btw, can't help but see the parallels of where the Kings were when they made the trade to where we are now...gaping holes in the top-6 with abundance of blueline prospects.