Blob Mckenzie wrote:Keenan did a great job here as a GM
No he didn't.
Yes.....
Yes he did.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:59 pm
by SKYO
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
mr perfect wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Keenan did a great job here as a GM
No he didn't.
Yes.....
Yes he did.
nah the only good thing he did was changing the old 94' boy philosophy here, now is the time to win & create a winning enviro for the future.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:44 pm
by DonCherry4PM
SKYO wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
mr perfect wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Keenan did a great job here as a GM
No he didn't.
Yes.....
Yes he did.
nah the only good thing he did was changing the old 94' boy philosophy here, now is the time to win & create a winning enviro for the future.
His trades may not have all been gold, but Linden for Bertuzzi, McCabe and a 3rd rounder (Ruutu) is one of the best trades that I can remember for the Canucks in the last 30 years.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:45 am
by Mickey107
I remember those last few weeks when the only important thing was to get Bure to the 50 goal mark to increase
his trade value. It was an ugly time for fans. Bure had already made it VERY clear nothing on Gawds good green planet could keep him in Van.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:56 am
by Blob Mckenzie
SKYO wrote:Ok ok, Keenan blew up the core basically, his good move was Linden for Bert/Cabe/3rd(ruutu).
Which in time got us the WCE, and Burke used Cabe to nab the Sedins.
But Keenster and Messier took this franchise as a heist and fucked it all up.
That team was a putrid mess when Keenan started gutting it. He tore it apart like it needed to be. He was a very smart man who started re shaping the team when he was in the GM chair.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:21 am
by Topper
Blob Mckenzie wrote:That team was a putrid mess when Keenan started gutting it. He tore it apart like it needed to be. He was a very smart man who started re shaping the team when he was in the GM chair.
How Genius Jim of him.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:01 am
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
SKYO wrote:Ok ok, Keenan blew up the core basically, his good move was Linden for Bert/Cabe/3rd(ruutu).
Which in time got us the WCE, and Burke used Cabe to nab the Sedins.
But Keenster and Messier took this franchise as a heist and fucked it all up.
That team was a putrid mess when Keenan started gutting it. He tore it apart like it needed to be. He was a very smart man who started re shaping the team when he was in the GM chair.
We all know you love Captain Hook because he dumped Captain Trev (whom you despised).
And was there ever a version of your Vancouver Canucks you didn't want "torn apart"?
Iron Mike was GM of your Vancouver Canucks for a few months.
And yes he "tore it apart" (at least 8 trades in those few months).
But was it with rhyme/reason?
Or was he just a blind self-serving monkey flinging his poop at a wall?
(all that stuck was the Linden fling - a great trade as it turned out)
Here is a partial list of MK Ultra's trades as GM of your Vancouver Canucks:
There are reasons why Krazy Keenan was exiled to Siberia.
Listen here to what the Golden Brett has to say bout dat dere:
Did Ironhead tear apart your Vancouver Canucks because he hated your Vancouver Canucks?
Does Ironhead hate everyone and everything except himself?
Should we have locked Ironhead up in your Essondale when he was here?
Yes he was an asshole and yes I love assholes
... but I prefer well-balanced ones upon the throne.
BTW was there ever a dysfunctional GM of your Vancouver Canucks named Mike
... that you didn't love?
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:17 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
None of those trades were bad, other than maybe running Gelinas out of town . The Linden trade was an ass raping of the Islanders. Linden was a very overrated player during his first tenure here. Keenan did what Pat Quinn was too lazy to do.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:26 pm
by Hockey Widow
Let's not forget how he screwed Luongo in Florida and gift wrapped him for Nonis. Why? Because Luongo had the nerve to hold out for what he felt he was worth and sucked up to Panthers ownership. Keenan showed him who was boss even though everyone thought Luongo's new deal was all but done. It cost Keenan his job in Florida eventually.
But carry on. Best GM we ever had. One very good/great trade and all else is forgiven. And it was a very good trade for us, one that eventually helped us grab both twins to boot.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:05 pm
by Topper
The questions remain, why was Linden reacquired, and after doing so, why wasn't he bought out at the initial buyout window?
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:31 pm
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote:None of those trades were bad, other than maybe running Gelinas out of town . The Linden trade was an ass raping of the Islanders. Linden was a very overrated player during his first tenure here. Keenan did what Pat Quinn was too lazy to do.
Yeah well probably not a great idea to have a psychopath at the helm.
And aside from the blind-squirrel-finding-a-nut Linden trade
... the combined effect of all those other trades was fairly brutal.
Topper wrote:The questions remain, why was Linden reacquired, and after doing so, why wasn't he bought out at the initial buyout window?
Reacquired because in 2001 Burkie was madly in love with him?
Not bought out in 2005 because Nonuts knew how madly the fans were in love with him?
Seriously, there would have been a major fan rebellion if Trevor was dumped again.
I remember the mob chasing me for suggesting it at the time and being pissed that is was never done...you'd think I'd said Stamkos on Stumps had a minor league game that wouldn't translate to the NHL.
The Habs signed him to a 4yr, $15mil contract that carried to Wash-Vanc