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Re: The Rebuild...

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RoyalDude wrote:
SKYO wrote:Within the next two years when LW Daniel Sedin retires along with his bro...

LW - RW:

Baertschi - Eriksson
Granlund - Boeser
Dahlen - Goldy
Gaunce - Virtanen
Dorsett - Molino
LaBate

fringe idk: Boucher, Cramarossa, Megna.
Dahlen is unknown if he can make the team, or when he can transition well, but IF he can someday he'd be a top 6 scorer LW, be cool to see him in camp september to see what he can do in the big leagues of the NHL. But for now unless he scores prolifically in preseason, Daniel Sedin can hold his spot for a year.

Now if they can get a freaking playmaking center for some of those wingers soon. Imagine a young P. Forsberg or a young J. Thornton centering those wingers.
You forgot Lockwood and Gaudette whom both can play wing as well. Both these players should sign next year. I don't think you realize how good these two prospects are SKYO. Terrific later round draft picks by Benning! Didn't we draft Lockwood with the 3rd round pick we acquired in the Sutter/Bonino trade?

But seriously how good are the Granlund and Baertschi trades? Terrific asset management!
Yeah more 3rd and 4th line players
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RoyalDude wrote:
SKYO wrote:Within the next two years when LW Daniel Sedin retires along with his bro...

LW - RW:

Baertschi - Eriksson
Granlund - Boeser
Dahlen - Goldy
Gaunce - Virtanen
Dorsett - Molino
LaBate

fringe idk: Boucher, Cramarossa, Megna.
Dahlen is unknown if he can make the team, or when he can transition well, but IF he can someday he'd be a top 6 scorer LW, be cool to see him in camp september to see what he can do in the big leagues of the NHL. But for now unless he scores prolifically in preseason, Daniel Sedin can hold his spot for a year.

Now if they can get a freaking playmaking center for some of those wingers soon. Imagine a young P. Forsberg or a young J. Thornton centering those wingers.
You forgot Lockwood and Gaudette whom both can play wing as well. Both these players should sign next year. I don't think you realize how good these two prospects are SKYO. Terrific later round draft picks by Benning! Didn't we draft Lockwood with the 3rd round pick we acquired in the Sutter/Bonino trade?

But seriously how good are the Granlund and Baertschi trades? Terrific asset management!
Yeah they are nicely tucked away in college, Lockwood I heard is a good energy guy, could be a future Hansen.

Gaudette is intriguing, could be a future 2nd or 3rd line scoring center.
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It's at this point I don't even see the need to have the Sedins, Edler, Eriksson here anymore and WHY they would want to even be on this team next year, unless it's just to collect a paycheck and live in Vancouver.

This current team is likely to be missing the playoffs for the 4th time in 5 years by this time next year.
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Lol Eriksson is unmovable like Sutter unless you are taking another long term garbage contract back. At least the Sedins and Edler are still decent players that aren't locked up for another five years
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We don't have permission from the league to rebuild yet.
Maybe they want a half a billion dollars from us ?
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SKYO wrote:It's at this point I don't even see the need to have the Sedins, Edler, Eriksson here anymore and WHY they would want to even be on this team next year, unless it's just to collect a paycheck and live in Vancouver.

This current team is likely to be missing the playoffs for the 4th time in 5 years by this time next year.
Yep. And the list of moveable veterans is small. It's going to be very tough to acquire more picks/prospects, without trading guys we paid a premium to acquire.
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Juolevi is going to get fast tracked next season, he doesn't need another year of the OHL. The Knights are not going to be a good team next season. He's played enough junior hockey the last 3 years, especially when you factor in the International Tourneys. His IQ will help him with the adjustment. Not talking dumb ass Virtanen here, Juolevi's IQ will help him adjust and survive quickly. The loss of Tryamkin also helps the fast tracking.

The 2017-18 season for the Canucks, will be the Outtro/kiss off for the Sedins and Intro to now being labelled - Horvat and Boeser's team. I think Virtanen gets busted into the line-up as Green seems to have a good read on him. The 2017-18 team will be exciting as we will have Boeser, Juolevi and Virtanen coming in, maybe Dahlen if he is better than advertised and with Goldobin lighting it up in those last few games in Utica for Green, maybe him as well. Because of that we are a lottery team in 2018, and I don't think the city will mind that, I know I won't mind it, just want to see the focus on the new era next season, we are done with Sedin hockey.

The 2018-19 season will be NO MORE SEDIN hockey as I think they will head back to the SEL to play out their careers. In 2018 we should be seeing the likes of some of Demko, Brisebios, Gaudette, Lockwood, the 2017 1st overall pick and maybe even the 2018 first overall pick (Tkachuk or McIsaac or Dahlin or Svechnikov or Veleno or Farabee or Merekly or Woo, etc?) making the jump.

The next two seasons are going to be fun as we FINALLY get to see the new era taking shape. About time

Hopefully we get Tryamkin back right when we are starting to compete with this next new core.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:
SKYO wrote:It's at this point I don't even see the need to have the Sedins, Edler, Eriksson here anymore and WHY they would want to even be on this team next year, unless it's just to collect a paycheck and live in Vancouver.

This current team is likely to be missing the playoffs for the 4th time in 5 years by this time next year.
Yep. And the list of moveable veterans is small. It's going to be very tough to acquire more picks/prospects, without trading guys we paid a premium to acquire.
I don't mind keeping Sutter and Eriksson around, maybe more so Eriksson. We need some semblance of veterans post Sedin hockey. Eriksson had a rough start as that seems to be his schtick but now that he has settled in could see him turning out to be a solid cagey leader for this all this youth we are about to see coming in. Sutter we will have to put up with until his moderated NTC kicks in (which is in the 3rd year of this contract) We could offer him up then at the deadline then for a team needing a centre down the lineup for a playoff push. He will still fairly young when the moderated NTC kicks in

Don't mind missing the playoffs for the next while just as long as we see the new era unfolding in spades instead of this slow mo retool in which I think Linden (and the Aquas) has gotten out of his system. The Sedins no longer are setting the mission statement.

If we could deal the Sedins at next years deadline for prospects and picks that would be a bonus.
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Fast tracking a 175 pound Juolevi on this this tire fire next year would be asinine. If he needs to play up one more level let him play in Finland.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:Fast tracking a 175 pound Juolevi on this this tire fire next year would be asinine. If he needs to play up one more level let him play in Finland.
Dude, get over your 175 lb shite. He's 6'-2" and in between 180 - 185 lbs ffs. He's played an excessive amount of high tempo intense hockey at a high level over the last 3 years, CHL Playoffs the last two seasons, A Memorial Cup run, two WJC's. He's cooked beyond cooked. He's ready. His IQ and cockiness will help him to make the adjustment
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Nope he still has a lot to learn. Learn it in a league where he isn't getting physically abused by men on a horrible team. Let him develop his chops offensively like McCann and Virtanen should have done. You guys are so fucking impatient for a new toy. Obviously didn't learn a thing when you the last two 19 year olds were shoe horned on to the team.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:Nope he still has a lot to learn. Learn it in a league where he isn't getting physically abused by men on a horrible team. Let him develop his chops offensively like McCann and Virtanen should have done. You guys are so fucking impatient for a new toy. Obviously didn't learn a thing when you the last two 19 year olds were shoe horned on to the team.
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Dude wants to watch a poor kid get pounded on the tire fire. Common sense doesn't exist with Dude and co.
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RoyalDude wrote: In 2018 we should be seeing the likes of some of Demko, Brisebios, Gaudette, Lockwood, the 2017 1st overall pick...
:shock: I missed the part with your clever plan for the Canucks to acquire the 2017 first overall pick ! Please share !
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RoyalDude wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Fast tracking a 175 pound Juolevi on this this tire fire next year would be asinine. If he needs to play up one more level let him play in Finland.
Dude, get over your 175 lb shite. He's 6'-2" and in between 180 - 185 lbs ffs. He's played an excessive amount of high tempo intense hockey at a high level over the last 3 years, CHL Playoffs the last two seasons, A Memorial Cup run, two WJC's. He's cooked beyond cooked. He's ready. His IQ and cockiness will help him to make the adjustment
Such a tough call with Juolevi, I think I might save him from this team for one more year and try to get another high pick next year.

Didn't Toronto let Nylander and Marner develop for a couple years then brought em all in with Matthews in one shot.

I'd give Juo 9 games to give him a good feeling of the NHL then let him dominate juniors for a season, a year goes by quick when you reach Nov.

Also if we get Liljegren 8-) , let him develop another year.

Bring em both in 2018/19. 8-)

That said Juolevi probably wouldn't dominate in his first year, so even he can make the team in the bottom pairing he shouldn't change the dynamic of the team just yet.


In any case the next Ovie/Kovie is available at #2 in 2018 draft Andrei Svechnikov.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/artic ... ng-at-wjac

Svechnikov also won USHL rookie of the year - started 16 years old.
Svechnikov played in 48 games with Muskegon this season, scoring an impressive 29 goals and 58 points in that span, both of which led the team. The 2000-birth year rookie finished sixth in USHL scoring. Svechnikov led all rookies with 29 goals and 58 points, and ranked second with 29 assists. The Lumberjacks forward’s seven game-winning goals and +29 rating were both ranked second among all players in the USHL.
So rebuild away, let the chips fall where they may in the draft lotto, because even if the Canucks improve marginally next season the new lotto rules help teams even if you don't tank miserably! :thumbs:
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