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One word topper...
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ukcanuck wrote: #losingmyreligion

Topper wrote:

ukcanuck wrote:

Topper wrote:goat fucker you say?

One word topper...
Hanger on

My sage advice, UK lives don't count.

Strangelove wrote:

ukcanuck wrote:

Topper wrote:goat fucker you say?

One word topper...
Hanger on

How many words?

ukcanuck wrote: #losingmyreligion

Thank God!

I’m a Republican, and I’m with Hillary Clinton

By MIKE FERNANDEZ

I am a firm believer in the fundamental tenets of the Republican Party: individual freedom, small government, local control of issues, free speech, strong national defense and the broad vision that America is an exceptional country that gives exceptional opportunities to everyone.

I take my civic responsibilities very seriously. None more so than the solemn duty to elect the president of our country. Donald Trump is neither representative of our values nor qualified to lead the nation.

Of all the elections in which I have participated, none has become more transcendental to the definition of “We the people” and the very nature of our democracy than the one we face today.

No longer can we seek solace in wishful thinking or the illusion that this is just an election cycle and that by divine intervention all will be better after we vote. There is no basis in thinking that our democracy is so strong, our checks and balances so finely hedged, that no single person can lead us off the precipice. Trump can.

No longer can we hide behind the excuse that party loyalty is paramount, and that a bad candidate of our own is always better than any candidate of theirs. Blind loyalty in this case is the ultimate definition of disloyalty to our beliefs. Loyalty to our nation must be the ultimate arbiter of our choice.

I have watched this election unfold, from that first press conference where the population of an entire country was cast as insulting to our core. This led to a neverending spiral of vulgarity, intellectual dishonesty, invective, abuse, misogyny, racism, intolerance, bullying, ignorance and downright cruelty. The fact that the person unleashing these forces, reflecting beliefs and biases that we had long ago identified as at odds with the Founding Fathers’ principle of ordered liberty was a member of my party, was at first cause for irritation evolving into alarm and frustration and finally arriving at a sobering moment of embarrassment for my party, and beyond that, of profound concern for my beloved country.

We have seen him attack our institutions and receive cheering adoration. At rallies he has implied that if his wish to lead the nation is not granted by popular vote, that the national system is rigged and deserving of attack. This is insanity and dictatorial machinations at best.

As a Republican who has contributed millions of dollars to the party’s causes, I ask: Why has our party not sought a psychological evaluation of its nominee?”

This abysmally unfit candidate has unleashed racist and violent acts. There has been no need for dog whistles. The call to brand entire religions and countries as unworthy and despicable, and the call for profoundly un-American practices, including asking the honorable men and women serving our country in the military to engage in the profoundly dishonorable task of torturing human beings and killing innocent families, has been open and unequivocal. The very worst in our society, the Klan and the neo-Nazis, revel in this horrific rhetoric.

I have arrived at this difficult moment. A moment that may define leaders and followers. I harbor no illusion that Hillary Clinton is perfect; none of us is. I do not see eye to eye on some issues with the former senator from New York. However, Clinton is, without doubt, a superior choice to Donald Trump.

Balancing any of her shortcomings are intelligence, experience, as well as the humility to accept that she does not have all the answers. She has delegated effectively over the decades in public service. These attributes will serve her well as president.

The republic should outlast any party. Our democratic spirit will ensure that we do and that this shining city on the hill eventually will shine even brighter.

I am equally convinced that our republic will be placed in fundamental peril if we are foolish enough to elect a person who has made it clear that he does not share in our democratic values and that the only idol in his temple is himself. And he is willing to pull down the glorious edifice of our American democracy.

And so my fellow Republicans, swallow hard, look into your heart — and your gut. Vote for Hillary Clinton and then every single Republican on the ticket.

Do that, and rest assured that you will have served your country well.

Michael “Mike” B. Fernandez is chairman of MBF Healthcare Partners, based in Coral Gables.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-e ... rylink=cpy

Per wrote:Let's try to avoid the mud slinging and stick to the political debate, shall we?

Republican Florida billionaire Mike Fernandez denounces Trump:

I’m a Republican, and I’m with Hillary Clinton

By MIKE FERNANDEZ
Michael “Mike” B. Fernandez is chairman of MBF Healthcare Partners, based in Coral Gables.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-e ... rylink=cpy

Per wrote: Let's try to avoid the mud slinging and stick to the political debate, shall we?

Per wrote:Let's try to avoid the mud slinging and stick to the political debate, shall we?

Fernandez denounces Trump:

vulgarity, intellectual dishonesty, invective, abuse, misogyny, racism, intolerance, bullying, ignorance and downright cruelty.

This is insanity and dictatorial machinations at best.

This abysmally unfit candidate has unleashed racist and violent acts. There has been no need for dog whistles. The call to brand entire religions and countries as unworthy and despicable, and the call for profoundly un-American practices, including asking the honorable men and women serving our country in the military to engage in the profoundly dishonorable task of torturing human beings and killing innocent families, has been open and unequivocal. The very worst in our society, the Klan and the neo-Nazis, revel in this horrific rhetoric.

Per wrote:

Reefer2 wrote: I predict Doc to come on and post something derogatory about Per and the author of the write up.

Then proceed to post more outlandish links to people who support his view.

Amirite ???

Let's try to avoid the mud slinging and stick to the political debate, shall we?

Strangelove wrote:

Per wrote: Let's try to avoid the mud slinging and stick to the political debate, shall we?

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton told the FBI she did not recall all of the briefings she received on handling sensitive information as she made the transition from her post as secretary of state, due to a concussion she suffered in 2012, according to a report released Friday.

Said the report, "Clinton said she received no instructions or direction regarding the preservation or production of records from [the] State [Department] during the transition out of her role as Secretary of State in 2013.

"However, in December of 2012, Clinton suffered a concussion and then around the New Year had a blood clot [in her head]. Based on her doctor's advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received," the report said.

After her use of a private email system became public knowledge in March 2015, Clinton repeatedly said she did not use it to send or receive classified information. The government forbids handling such information outside secure channels.

The FBI has since concluded Clinton was wrong to say that: At least 81 email threads contained information that was classified at the time, although the final number may be more than 2,000, the report says.

Some of the emails appear to include discussion of planned future attacks by unmanned U.S. military drones, the FBI report shows.

"Clinton believed the classification level of future drone strikes depended on the context," the FBI's interview summary said.

The U.S. government requires that military plans be classified.