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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:44 pm
by Strangelove
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:31 am
by Cornuck
The expectation, affirmed in conversations within the past three days by essentially everyone on the NHL players’ side of the aisle, is that the union will decline to trigger the escalator for next season, thus creating a flat salary cap right around the current $73 million for 2017-18.
Well, not exactly. The NHLPA is not going to create the flat cap. The NHL will have done that by generating essentially no revenue growth over the past year. The players are picking their poison, choosing to go with a flat cap that restricts choices for free agents rather than creating a scenario under which escrow losses escalate.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/11/nhl-losses ... ard-place/
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:20 pm
by Strangelove
Cornuck wrote:The expectation, affirmed in conversations within the past three days by essentially everyone on the NHL players’ side of the aisle, is that the union will decline to trigger the escalator for next season, thus creating a flat salary cap right around the current $73 million for 2017-18.
Well, not exactly. The NHLPA is not going to create the flat cap. The NHL will have done that by generating essentially no revenue growth over the past year. The players are picking their poison, choosing to go with a flat cap that restricts choices for free agents rather than creating a scenario under which escrow losses escalate.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/11/nhl-losses ... ard-place/
It's a good year for them to do this what with all the extra salary being taken on by Vegas.
Also there are not many top-dollar UFAs this off-season.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:02 pm
by Island Nucklehead
Cast-offs Bonino and Kessel win back-to-back cups.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:47 pm
by Topper
Cornuck wrote:The expectation, affirmed in conversations within the past three days by essentially everyone on the NHL players’ side of the aisle, is that the union will decline to trigger the escalator for next season, thus creating a flat salary cap right around the current $73 million for 2017-18.
Well, not exactly. The NHLPA is not going to create the flat cap. The NHL will have done that by generating essentially no revenue growth over the past year. The players are picking their poison, choosing to go with a flat cap that restricts choices for free agents rather than creating a scenario under which escrow losses escalate.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/11/nhl-losses ... ard-place/
Isn't that what the NHLPA bargained against?
LOL
Union shmucks.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:15 am
by Mickey107
NHLPA: Different age groups, different agendas. Many different agendas.
Make it real easy for the NHL to be bullies.
The Canucks executive board member-Alex Burrows.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:31 am
by Rocky Dennis
SKYO wrote:Wow
. Hampus Lindholm and Sami Vatanen need major shoulder surgery, Ducks GM Bob Murray says. Lindholm will be out 4-5 months, Vatanen "longer."
Question: Does having these guys on long term injured reserve in any way benefit the Ducks with regards to their upcoming expansion draft challenges, particularly when it comes to their defense? I cant recall if injury makes a player ineligible for the unprotected list. And if so, do they eat up a protected spot by default? And if so, on a canucks tangent, what is the current status of dorsett?
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:50 pm
by Hockey Widow
Rocky Dennis wrote:SKYO wrote:Wow
. Hampus Lindholm and Sami Vatanen need major shoulder surgery, Ducks GM Bob Murray says. Lindholm will be out 4-5 months, Vatanen "longer."
Question: Does having these guys on long term injured reserve in any way benefit the Ducks with regards to their upcoming expansion draft challenges, particularly when it comes to their defense? I cant recall if injury makes a player ineligible for the unprotected list. And if so, do they eat up a protected spot by default? And if so, on a canucks tangent, what is the current status of dorsett?
I think, I'm sure I will be corrected if wrong, that injured players need protecting and or are eligible to be selected if unprotected. It is the long term career ending injuries that are treated differently. I.E. the Pronger, Clarke, Savard types. The idea behind that is to prevent Vegas from selecting those players to just get cap compliant and using that as a pick along with preventing a team from getting out from under those contracts via the expansion draft. They can still be traded in the normal cap circumvention because it does not involve the Canucks kinda way.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:41 pm
by Strangelove
Rocky Dennis wrote:on a canucks tangent, what is the current status of dorsett?
Dorsett will be available for the Vegas Knights to select in the expansion draft.
HW is right about "only long term career ending injuries being treated differently".
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:43 pm
by Strangelove
Hockey Widow wrote:I.E. the Pronger, Clarke, Savard types... can still be traded in the normal cap circumvention because it does not involve the Canucks kinda way.
Agreed, this particular form of cap circumvention will remain legal until the Canucks use it.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:06 pm
by Tciso
Strangelove wrote:Hockey Widow wrote:I.E. the Pronger, Clarke, Savard types... can still be traded in the normal cap circumvention because it does not involve the Canucks kinda way.
Agreed, this particular form of cap circumvention will remain legal until the Canucks use it.

Yup. If Luongo gets a career ending injury, he'll somehow come back to bite the canucks in the cap.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:12 pm
by Hockey Widow
Rangers buy out Girardi.
From NY Times:
Girardi, 33, has three years left on his deal with a cap hit of $5.5 million per season. A buyout will leave the Rangers with $2,611,111 in dead space for 2017-18, $3,611,111 for the following two seasons and $1,111,111 for each of the three seasons after through 2022-23, according to CapFriendly.com.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:02 pm
by Rocky Dennis
Strangelove wrote:Rocky Dennis wrote:on a canucks tangent, what is the current status of dorsett?
Dorsett will be available for the Vegas Knights to select in the expansion draft.
HW is right about "only long term career ending injuries being treated differently".
Appreciate the clarification HW & Doc. Thx.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:26 am
by Tciso
Hockey Widow wrote:Rangers buy out Girardi.
From NY Times:
Girardi, 33, has three years left on his deal with a cap hit of $5.5 million per season. A buyout will leave the Rangers with $2,611,111 in dead space for 2017-18, $3,611,111 for the following two seasons and $1,111,111 for each of the three seasons after through 2022-23, according to CapFriendly.com.
Ouch. That is an expansion draft buy-out. He has a NMC, so he could not be exposed. High price to keep their other D-men.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:47 am
by Chef Boi RD
WOW! Girardi's contract is almost as bad as the one Gillis gave Mr. Relaxation - Jason Garrison, Blobbee's Crescent Beach Buddy