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Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:26 pm
by Strangelove
Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:36 am Should BC join blue states - California, Washington and Oregon and form a country?
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Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:38 pm
by Topper
The silence is deafening.

Since his finance minister resigned with a scathing letter, Trudeau has said more about the deaths of a former US President and a former Indian Prime Minister than he has said about the crisis facing his future, his party's future and the looking tariffs from the US.

Into that leadership vacuum the growing discontent of his caucus and Canadians has blossomed.

His usual MO of ignoring issues until they go away in the next news cycle isn't working.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:45 pm
by donlever

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:49 pm
by Topper
donlever wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:45 pm Deflect and deter.

Tamara has had enough....

https://x.com/LichTamara/status/1875348 ... iElTw&s=19

https://x.com/LichTamara/status/1875348 ... qnJpw&s=19
I was really hoping Khalid was going to get a cabinet seat again. She checks so many DEI boxes.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:46 pm
by Topper
Justin has released his New Years message

https://x.com/WBrettWilson/status/1875240771940708699

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:21 am
by 2Fingers
January 5th and nothing coming from him.

Seems they need to plan this out to delay as long as possible. Liberals need 90 days to pick a new leader, they won’t have that time if the get a no confidence vote. Now it seems they will do this by “prologue parliament”.

This guy needs to go fast, liberals will be lucky to get 10 seats.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:17 am
by Topper
Candidates have 90 days to finalize their nominations before a campaign begins for a new leader. It is a 4 month process unless they reach a consensus for new leader. (Dion/Ignatlief)

Provincial caucus chairs meet today, six hour scheduled national caucus meeting Wednesday. The knives will be half sheathed but blades visible. Rumours are that unless there is a resignation Monday or Tuesday, Liberal MPs and Caucus Chairs go public on Wednesday. Those who sat on their hands hoping to get a cabinet seat in the last shuffle have nothing to lose now. Word is that PMO staff have been told its all hands on deck in the office Monday morning hinting at some sort of announcement.

The ego says he wants to face the impending tariff battle and more so chair the June G7 meeting which points to prorogation.

The practical would be an consensus interim caretaker leader with no future leadership aspirations (LeBlanc is my guess) would sit through an immediate Federal election and subsequent leadership convention giving the new leader an election cycle of opposition to establish themself and re-establish the party.

Worth noting that all you need to do to vote in the leadership election is to click a box on the Liberal party website. No membership dues, residency or citizenship requirements.

The reality is more likely an unverified accusation of another murder by Modi.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:20 pm
by Meds
Topper wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:17 am
Worth noting that all you need to do to vote in the leadership election is to click a box on the Liberal party website. No membership dues, residency or citizenship requirements.
Every Conservative voter in the country should click the box beside Trudeau’s name…..nothing would sewer that party further than him staying the course.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:31 pm
by 2Fingers
Unbelievable that he could delay government until June if he wants to stay for the G7 summit.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:14 pm
by Topper
Brian Lilley has been posting today on X that the government is funded through the end of March. There are special measures to maintain funding during an election campaign when government is dissolved, but it is uncertain if that applies during a prorogation. Lilley asks if it matters given Trudeau's record of following the rules.

If true though, it means the government will need to pass a spending bill before the end of March. Spending bills are automatically votes of confidence.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:44 pm
by Topper
Sounds like today's meeting went as forecasted. Grope & Wail (Grope & Whale for Cuz) reporting Justin resigns before Wednesday caucus meeting.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:47 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Topper wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:44 pm Sounds like today's meeting went as forecasted. Grope & Wail (Grope & Whale for Cuz) reporting Justin resigns before Wednesday caucus meeting.
One thing you can count on....the big ones always swallow

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:11 am
by 2Fingers
Seems he resigned today as liberal leader but will stay on as the PM until a new one is selected. I guess we will a prolonged government for 120 days.

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2025/01/06 ... ister/amp/

Until late March.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:56 am
by Topper
Prorogation until March 24 confirms that the government will need a funding measure before April 1.

It also means he has a deal in place with Jaguar Meat to pass a new Throne Speech and subsequent funding measures as those are both confidence measures that would trigger an election.

Prorogation because Parliament has been paralyzed by filibuster? That filibuster is because his government refuses to hand over unredacted documents that the House has demanded. This is the second time Trudeau has prorogued Parliament due to scandal. The first was a refusal to face investigation into the WE Charity scandal.

Trudeau says a "robust and open" leadership campaign, but also said the Party leadership will be meeting to discuss the rules and process whatever those may be.

Trump isn't negotiating with a lame duck loser.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:10 am
by Topper
Interesting from Trudeau's statement, his only regret was not passing Proportional Representation.

ProRep was a 2015 campaign promise, "this will be the last election fought under first past the post" but was abandoned when his committee studying it came up with a ProRep system he did not like and may work against him.

Trudeau would have lost the last two elections under ProRep.

Next Carbon Tax increase is April 1.