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Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 1:25 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
You could see his game had taken a nosedive early on. I even posted that we likely have lost the ability to receive max return in trading that asset.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 2:41 pm
by donlever
Should have moved him last year (like "maybe" to the Sharks for one of their draft assets).

Now...who might have brought that up?

And what was the consensus of the site at the time?

I'll wait....

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:08 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Hronek is only 29. Seems odd to me for his puck recovery rate to drop so precipitously, but it would be adequately explained by an injury that he could play through without exacerbating, but that still impaired his play. I'm thinking maybe something like shoulder tendonitis, where the unimpeded motions still let him pass and make some kinds of shots, but there would be some some directions in which he could exert little force on his stick.

Have we got any sources on the Canucks' training staff?

I guess my alternative hypothesis would be that there was always some tactical weakness in his approach to puck battles, and now the rest of the League has the book on how to beat him. But I would have expected something like that to have come out much earlier.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:20 pm
by Tciso
Hronek needs less ice time. 26 or 29 minutes a night is too much for him. I would say that is his #1 problem. Buium needs to step it up too. He isn't helping Hronek out much at all.

But, EP25 and Willander are both looking good.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:27 pm
by Picker of Cherries
He has never been a great PK defensemen.
If he wasn’t first over the boards to kill penalties, he’d be playing better.
They just don’t have anyone else.
It’s a rebuild - :drink:

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:38 pm
by Megaterio Llamas
Fil has a full anchor this year and next. https://puckpedia.com/team/vancouver-canucks

In case anyone is getting any funny ideas about trading him. :)

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:43 pm
by donlever
If I am Fil and Pinky and the Brain with RJ come to me pre draft and ask me to waive for San Jose I'd call Brian Burke for a ride to the airport.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:45 pm
by Megaterio Llamas
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:08 pm
Hronek is only 29. Seems odd to me for his puck recovery rate to drop so precipitously, but it would be adequately explained by an injury that he could play through without exacerbating, but that still impaired his play. I'm thinking maybe something like shoulder tendonitis, where the unimpeded motions still let him pass and make some kinds of shots, but there would be some some directions in which he could exert little force on his stick.

Have we got any sources on the Canucks' training staff?

I guess my alternative hypothesis would be that there was always some tactical weakness in his approach to puck battles, and now the rest of the League has the book on how to beat him. But I would have expected something like that to have come out much earlier.
I don't really know Cliff, other than agreeing with Cisco that they're overplaying him. I don't know what his previous standard was.

Regarding the training syaff, the drop down menu for Canucks personnel on their website has been blank all season. Maybe they don't have trainers anymore.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:52 pm
by Cornuck
Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:20 pm Hronek needs less ice time. 26 or 29 minutes a night is too much for him. I would say that is his #1 problem. Buium needs to step it up too. He isn't helping Hronek out much at all.

But, EP25 and Willander are both looking good.
Has anyone seen Hronek's numbers when D-Petey was playing with him vs Buium?

I agree - cut his minutes (the pump and dump ain't working) - there's no reason to have him out there for 1/2 the game.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:58 pm
by rikster
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:45 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:08 pm
Hronek is only 29. Seems odd to me for his puck recovery rate to drop so precipitously, but it would be adequately explained by an injury that he could play through without exacerbating, but that still impaired his play. I'm thinking maybe something like shoulder tendonitis, where the unimpeded motions still let him pass and make some kinds of shots, but there would be some some directions in which he could exert little force on his stick.

Have we got any sources on the Canucks' training staff?

I guess my alternative hypothesis would be that there was always some tactical weakness in his approach to puck battles, and now the rest of the League has the book on how to beat him. But I would have expected something like that to have come out much earlier.
I don't really know Cliff, other than agreeing with Cisco that they're overplaying him. I don't know what his previous standard was.

Regarding the training syaff, the drop down menu for Canucks personnel on their website has been blank all season. Maybe they don't have trainers anymore.
https://www.nhl.com/canucks/team/training-staff

Just click on Human Performance drop down...

Re: Canucks News N Notes 26-27

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2026 5:04 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:45 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:08 pm
Hronek is only 29. Seems odd to me for his puck recovery rate to drop so precipitously, but it would be adequately explained by an injury that he could play through without exacerbating, but that still impaired his play. I'm thinking maybe something like shoulder tendonitis, where the unimpeded motions still let him pass and make some kinds of shots, but there would be some some directions in which he could exert little force on his stick.
I don't really know Cliff, other than agreeing with Cisco that they're overplaying him. I don't know what his previous standard was.
Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:20 pm Hronek needs less ice time. 26 or 29 minutes a night is too much for him. I would say that is his #1 problem.
Picker of Cherries wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:27 pm He has never been a great PK defensemen.
If he wasn’t first over the boards to kill penalties, he’d be playing better.
They just don’t have anyone else.
None of our theories are mutually contradictory; it could be any combination of those factors.
Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:20 pm Buium needs to step it up too. He isn't helping Hronek out much at all.
But, EP25 and Willander are both looking good.
I would be worried about Buium, but I will take comfort in the fact that he is one and two seasons behind Willander and EP25, respectively, and defence takes longer to learn. That, and that knowledgeable posters here seem confident that Buium remains on his expected development curve.
Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2026 4:52 pm (the pump and dump ain't working) - there's no reason to have him out there for 1/2 the game.
I don't think the 'pump' phase has begun. I think they want to hang on to him in a mentorship/leadership role for at least this season.