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Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:56 pm as bad as our draft lottery luck has been the hockey gawds may have really done us some favours. We draft Pettersson and then Hughes. In the Pettersson draft Linden was asked if he would have taken one of the topt wo had we won the draft lottery. He said no. I think Pettersson was their pick no matter what, and Benning would have been crucified had he drafted Pettersson 1st or 2nd.

with Hughes he was the guy Benning coveted and he fell to us. The hockey gawds may just be saving the fan base from heart attacks.

Benning may like a do over on Virtanen and Juolevi, I know some fans would, but he hit home runs on Boeser, Pettersson and Hughes. I have faith wherever we land, whomever Benning selects, we will be OK.

Diehard1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:55 pm

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:56 pm as bad as our draft lottery luck has been the hockey gawds may have really done us some favours. We draft Pettersson and then Hughes. In the Pettersson draft Linden was asked if he would have taken one of the topt wo had we won the draft lottery. He said no. I think Pettersson was their pick no matter what, and Benning would have been crucified had he drafted Pettersson 1st or 2nd.

with Hughes he was the guy Benning coveted and he fell to us. The hockey gawds may just be saving the fan base from heart attacks.

Benning may like a do over on Virtanen and Juolevi, I know some fans would, but he hit home runs on Boeser, Pettersson and Hughes. I have faith wherever we land, whomever Benning selects, we will be OK.

I think Jimbo’s draft acumen is overstated - yes he got Petey and he looks amazing, but it took a 2nd last place finish to get him people seem to forget. Yes he got Hughes, but the kid hasn’t even played a game yet so I’m not going to give him credit just yet. Boeser is a solid pick at 23, but if you look back at that draft it’s stacked, it’s not like Jimbo pulled a rabbit out of a hat here. In the 10 picks around Brock names like Chabot, Colin White, Konecny, Roslovic, Beauvillier are there. Jimbo made a good pick but it’s also an amazing crop of kids. On a side note, Boston picked Senyshyn and Zboril in the 1st - ouch. The Demko pick could be solid as well, hopefully he keeps developing.

Jimbo has also picked Virtanen 6th overall and he doesn’t look like he will live up to that pick, traded a 1st rounder in McCann + a 2nd and a 4th for Guddy and a 5th which was awful, drafted Juolevi who has promise but there were much better players available, drafted Lind and Gadjovich who both regressed this year in Utica, lost Tryamkin, traded Forsling, etc. In fact the only players who look like good to great picks so far are a Petey, Boeser, Demko and hopefully Hughes. That’s with 4 picks in the top 7 of the draft, and 5 others from 20-40, so he’s had high picks to get very good talent.

So far his much vaunted drafting has been above average but not great. Yes there’s still time for development with Gaudette, Lind, Gadjovich, DiPietro, Woo, Madden and maybe a couple of others, but it’s not as great as people seem to think. His refusal to trade for more picks - if he utters the words ‘hockey trade’ once more I might lose it - is a huge issue that would really help, but Jimbo seems to like his reclamation projects instead of picks. Hard to win the draft and develop game when your rebuilding competitors have more picks than you do.

SKYO wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:45 pm The only flaw in your thought process DIEHARD, is the Canucks haven't even picked in the top 4 overall once since JB's arrival and prospect analyzers like Dobber and Pronman have the Canucks prospect pool either ranked #2 or #4 in the league since last summer.

And it's only gonna get better after this draft.

We got one of the youngest cores in the league developing, and they will only get better as time goes on.

Greener pastures lay ahead m8, stay tuned.

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:10 am When Benning was hired, his first priority was to refill the age gaps in the veteran line up he had inherited. handicapped with players on trade protected contracts he got on with the job of moving what he could when he could while bringing in player within defined age brackets who could fulfill roles while using his picks to generate the best prospect pool in Canuck history.

Given the odds of a second or third round pick having a NHL career of any significance and the cost of a high 1st round pick, I've never understood the fascination of accumulating anything other than high first round picks. While some may advocate for gathering as many handfulls of shit as possible, it is more about plucking gems.

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:10 am When Benning was hired, his first priority was to refill the age gaps in the veteran line up he had inherited. handicapped with players on trade protected contracts he got on with the job of moving what he could when he could while bringing in player within defined age brackets who could fulfill roles while using his picks to generate the best prospect pool in Canuck history.

Given the odds of a second or third round pick having a NHL career of any significance and the cost of a high 1st round pick, I've never understood the fascination of accumulating anything other than high first round picks. While some may advocate for gathering as many handfulls of shit as possible, it is more about plucking gems.

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:10 am When Benning was hired, his first priority was to refill the age gaps in the veteran line up he had inherited. handicapped with players on trade protected contracts he got on with the job of moving what he could when he could while bringing in player within defined age brackets who could fulfill roles while using his picks to generate the best prospect pool in Canuck history.

Given the odds of a second or third round pick having a NHL career of any significance and the cost of a high 1st round pick, I've never understood the fascination of accumulating anything other than high first round picks. While some may advocate for gathering as many handfulls of shit as possible, it is more about plucking gems.

Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:40 am

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:10 am When Benning was hired, his first priority was to refill the age gaps in the veteran line up he had inherited. handicapped with players on trade protected contracts he got on with the job of moving what he could when he could while bringing in player within defined age brackets who could fulfill roles while using his picks to generate the best prospect pool in Canuck history.

Given the odds of a second or third round pick having a NHL career of any significance and the cost of a high 1st round pick, I've never understood the fascination of accumulating anything other than high first round picks. While some may advocate for gathering as many handfulls of shit as possible, it is more about plucking gems.

Seems that this was his trade/UFA strategy...

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:59 am Problem was, we didn't have any assets worth anything to acquire those extra picks with.

Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:57 am

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:59 am Problem was, we didn't have any assets worth anything to acquire those extra picks with.

Didn't Benning turn Kesler/Bieksa/Garrison and Lack into 1st/2nd/2nd/3rd/3rd round picks? Of course he turned around and lit most of those on fire...

packaging Bonino and the Bieksa pick for Sutter.
turning the 1st (and adding a second) into Gudbranson Tanner Pearson.
Turning Garrison's 2nd into Vey nothing.

Thankfully, the rebuild on the fly period is over.

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:31 am

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:10 am When Benning was hired, his first priority was to refill the age gaps in the veteran line up he had inherited. handicapped with players on trade protected contracts he got on with the job of moving what he could when he could while bringing in player within defined age brackets who could fulfill roles while using his picks to generate the best prospect pool in Canuck history.

Given the odds of a second or third round pick having a NHL career of any significance and the cost of a high 1st round pick, I've never understood the fascination of accumulating anything other than high first round picks. While some may advocate for gathering as many handfulls of shit as possible, it is more about plucking gems.

Tampa traded two of those picks for Ryan Mcdonaugh.

Tampa has long been considered a model organization. They draft and develop as good or better than anyone. Go have a gander at their draft record. They have a few 2nd and 3rd rounders helping out with the big club. More picks = more chances to draft a good player. Not to hard to figure out.

The whole age gap thing is funny. They could have found similar age gap guys on the waiver wire for the most part instead of puking away assets for these guys.

Yes guys like Brayden Point are polished turds for sure