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Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:40 pm
by theman
Hockey Widow wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:37 pm Here is how the tiers break down and what the compensation given out is.

AAV Compensation
$1 - $1,415,740 None
$1,415,741 - $2,145,061 1 3rd-round pick
$2,145,062 - $4,290,125 1 2nd-round pick
$4,290,126 - $6,435,186 1 1st-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$6,435,187 - $8,580,250 1 1st-round pick, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$8,580,251 - $10,725,314 2 1st-round picks, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$10,725,315 or more 4 1st-round picks
If someone signed him to the '2nd round compensation' bracket or above that, I would 100% let him go. 3rd round compensation bracket, would think about it, long and hard before matching.

So, guess what I am saying is, I am not sold on Silovs being anything more than an NHL back up at this point.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:44 pm
by Strangelove
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:32 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:28 pm
UWSaint wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:12 pm I suppose leverage for signing Silovs makes sense if he's offer sheet eligible. Is he? I don't think he's got enough games, but I might not understand the rules.
Yes, Silovs can be offersheeted.

Noted Canuck-hater Frank Seravalli made a point of broadcasting that fact to the world the other day

... and what a great move that would be for some team. :scowl:

But the reality is offersheets very rarely happen, so not much leverage at all there at all.
Fat Frank was banging the drum on that ridiculous Silovs buyout bullshit for a solid week actually.

Is there a bigger asshole in hockey media today?
Nope, there isn't.

It's coming out more and more now.

I always suspected he was a douche, but he worked hard at hiding that fact while he paid his dues, biding his time.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:49 pm
by Strangelove
theman wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:40 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:37 pm Here is how the tiers break down and what the compensation given out is.

AAV Compensation
$1 - $1,415,740 None
$1,415,741 - $2,145,061 1 3rd-round pick
$2,145,062 - $4,290,125 1 2nd-round pick
$4,290,126 - $6,435,186 1 1st-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$6,435,187 - $8,580,250 1 1st-round pick, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$8,580,251 - $10,725,314 2 1st-round picks, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$10,725,315 or more 4 1st-round picks
If someone signed him to the '2nd round compensation' bracket or above that, I would 100% let him go. 3rd round compensation bracket, would think about it, long and hard before matching.

So, guess what I am saying is, I am not sold on Silovs being anything more than an NHL back up at this point.
The best part of a team offersheeting Silovs is it would suddenly be acceptable for Pinky and the Brain to retaliate.

Revenge is a tasty dish indeed. :twisted:

(best served cold)

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:46 pm
by Chef Boi RD
The mythical being known as the “offer sheet” returns to the discussion once again as it always does before July 1st and as fleeting as always just like the Ogopogo and Sasquatch.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:00 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Sasquatch is definitely real though Chef. There is convincing circumstantial evidence

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:30 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:22 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:56 pm We get it. Elmer was your guy. The hatred of the new administration is fascinating however.

Maybe reach out to Elmo's nephew the faux Canucks fan and see how he's making out. Dick Stinky or whatever his name was. 99% of the fans are stoked to have decent management for a change.
Jim Benning is so dumb that under "Education" on his Canucks application he put "Managing Teams for Dummies".
Jim Benning is so dumb that when his office light bulb burnt out he fired up the computer to tell Aquilini to pay his electric bill.
Jim Benning is so dumb he got hit in the head by a puck while alone in his locked office.
Jim Benning is so dumb he once put a player in the Player Assistance program because he said he was hooked on phonics.
Jim Benning is so dumb he once had an ejection seat installed in Aqualini’s private helicopter.
Jim Benning is so dumb he sits on the TV, and watches the couch!
Jim Benning is so dumb he stared at an orange juice carton for five minutes because it said 'concentrate'. (then passed out from exhaustion)
Jim Benning is so dumb he once returned a donut because it had a hole in it.
Jim Benning is so dumb he fell out of the tree while raking leaves.
Jim Benning is so dumb he studied all weekend for Monday’s urine test
Jim Benning is so dumb he thinks “Pennies from Heaven” is a song about climate change.


Merry Christmas Blob. :santa:
Great contribution as usual.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:38 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:30 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:22 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:56 pm We get it. Elmer was your guy. The hatred of the new administration is fascinating however.

Maybe reach out to Elmo's nephew the faux Canucks fan and see how he's making out. Dick Stinky or whatever his name was. 99% of the fans are stoked to have decent management for a change.
Jim Benning is so dumb that under "Education" on his Canucks application he put "Managing Teams for Dummies".
Jim Benning is so dumb that when his office light bulb burnt out he fired up the computer to tell Aquilini to pay his electric bill.
Jim Benning is so dumb he got hit in the head by a puck while alone in his locked office.
Jim Benning is so dumb he once put a player in the Player Assistance program because he said he was hooked on phonics.
Jim Benning is so dumb he once had an ejection seat installed in Aqualini’s private helicopter.
Jim Benning is so dumb he sits on the TV, and watches the couch!
Jim Benning is so dumb he stared at an orange juice carton for five minutes because it said 'concentrate'. (then passed out from exhaustion)
Jim Benning is so dumb he once returned a donut because it had a hole in it.
Jim Benning is so dumb he fell out of the tree while raking leaves.
Jim Benning is so dumb he studied all weekend for Monday’s urine test
Jim Benning is so dumb he thinks “Pennies from Heaven” is a song about climate change.


Merry Christmas Blob. :santa:
Great contribution as usual.
Blob, nice seeing you again. My sabbatical found me wondering unknown streets confused until I found myself back here again. It’s like the Twilight Zone

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:57 pm
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:30 pm Great contribution as usual.
Thanks man, I figured you'd like that.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:15 pm
by Lancer
I guess management must be concerned about the threat of Silovs getting offer-sheeted if they’re circling back on DeSmith.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:32 pm
by Picker of Cherries
Lancer wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:15 pm I guess management must be concerned about the threat of Silovs getting offer-sheeted if they’re circling back on DeSmith.
Or they are worried that Demko won’t regain his heath to play a full season? :wow:

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:08 pm
by Hockey Widow
Picker of Cherries wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:32 pm
Lancer wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:15 pm I guess management must be concerned about the threat of Silovs getting offer-sheeted if they’re circling back on DeSmith.
Or they are worried that Demko won’t regain his heath to play a full season? :wow:
Or they recognize that Silovs benefits more from another year in Abbotsford than play 20-25 games in the NHL.

OR all of the above.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:13 pm
by Picker of Cherries
One question is who will be the RHD penalty killer. Last season Cole played his off side and was usually first over the boards on the PK. He was pretty good at that. Neither Hronek nor Myers are particularly adept at leading the penalty kill. Soucy is good on the left side. Maybe Juulsen? When he is playing lots and at his best he’s good on the PK, but I don’t know if they plan to play him in the top six and give him consistent minutes. Tanev or Pesce would be great, but probably not in their price range. They need someone who can kill penalties on the right side defence or their PK may revert back to something Boudreau would be proud of.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:50 pm
by Meds
What do people project that Teuvo Teravainen will be commanding? He's coming off of a season where he scored at 0.70 ppg and had a cap hit of $5.4M.

He's an outstanding skater, really good hands, plays a 200 foot game.

I'd move Petey for parts and picks.

Lindholm back at $8M
Teravainen at $6.5M
DeBrusk or Bertuzzi at $4.5M
Roy or Montour.

Boeser - Miller - Podkolzin
DeBrusk - Lindholm - Teravainen
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - ______

Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - Montour/Roy
_____ - Myers
Friedman - Juulsen

Demko
______

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:36 am
by Chef Boi RD
Picker of Cherries wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:13 pm One question is who will be the RHD penalty killer. Last season Cole played his off side and was usually first over the boards on the PK. He was pretty good at that. Neither Hronek nor Myers are particularly adept at leading the penalty kill. Soucy is good on the left side. Maybe Juulsen? When he is playing lots and at his best he’s good on the PK, but I don’t know if they plan to play him in the top six and give him consistent minutes. Tanev or Pesce would be great, but probably not in their price range. They need someone who can kill penalties on the right side defence or their PK may revert back to something Boudreau would be proud of.
RHD are getting big coin right now - Chatfield, DeMelo for example. I imagine Pesce and Tanev will no doubt be hitting Jackpot. Explains the Myers extension before Monday.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:43 am
by Chef Boi RD
RHD Myers 3 years is a good placeholder timeline for RHD Willander. The Great Willando goes back to Boston year 1. Cooks in Abby and gets cups of coffee year 2. Gets brought in slowly down on the 3rd pair in year 3. Bye Myers hello Willander year 4. Chef will be senile in an old age home yelling inebriated stuff about a Blob MacKenzie year 5