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Come on per they have 340 million people from all over the world and more international flights than anyone else

He has done a pretty good job considering. Also the governor’s run their own states and guys like cuomo putting covid cases into elderly care facilities Is beyond Trump and beyond stupid. Quit blaming everything on the president . It’s the easy out for all you left leaning...

I can’t imagine the damage the dems would have done in full control

But anyways you believe what you want and I’ll do the same..

Mail in... don’t get me started on that sham

rats19 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:41 pm
Mail in... don’t get me started on that sham

And why is that a sham?

Roughly 40% of the vote in the most recent Swedish elections were mail in votes. They are as scrutinized as any other vote. The only difference is that it makes it easier for those that work on the election day or are out of town or just feel it more convenient. It reduces the lines at the polling stations. I only see benefits. What is the problem?

Also isn’t this a matter of states rights in the USA?
Some states alllow it, some don’t. Some have skipped polling stations and only vote by mail.
From my understanding it ought to be up to each individual state, and wrecking the postal services to sabotage the voting for those states that rely on it seems rather extreme and seriously - not the president’s business.

Per wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:22 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm
“Look at the facts… Paid off porn star… Russia lies… Racism… Children in cages… Conspiracy theories.”

Stormy Daniels eventually admitted she never actually had an affair with "My orange hero"

Source on that?

So why did he pay her USD 130,000 from campaign funds?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Da ... ite_note-1

"Daniels later signed a statement witnessed by both her lawyer and publicist denying that she had an affair with Trump."

(check the link in that article for more info if you like, also google is your friend)

And it wasn't Trump who paid the $130K, it was Cohen.

(Remember? Cohen was the one convicted of wrongdoing, not "My orange hero")

Crazy Mika... and apparently you... are still accusing Donny of things he has long been cleared!

Apparently Cohen paid her off because he couldn't get ahold of Don in the midst of the hectic campaign.

(Stormy came out of the woodwork a few weeks before the election, threatening to go public with her lies)

Per wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:22 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm … no Russia lies,

Uhm... some seven, iirc, people with ties to the Trump campaign have been convicted in a court of law for lying about Russia.
But you know better?

AGAIN

... President Trump had nothing to do with that!

AGAIN... Mika was accusing "My orange hero" of "Russia lies".

As you know, this has been thoroughly investigated and Lord Trump came out smelling like a rose...

Per wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:22 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm no racism,

PLENTY of racism, starting with the practices Don and his dad had cutting of water and electricity to get rid of people of colour from their buildings back in the 70’s to the whole birtherism shit he started, questioning Obama’s birth certificate, and it goes on and on and on and on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_vi ... nald_Trump

Your link does not mention "cutting of (sic) water and electricity" nor does it say "he started the whole birtherism (sic) shit".

(btw just how the fuck does one twist "the birtherism (sic) shit" into something racist?)

President Trump is not a racist and neither you nor Mika could ever prove dat dere completely-fabricated left-wing smear.

(you slandering, orange-people-hating scum you)

Per wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:22 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm no children in cages (That one was [Obama])

Er... partially correct.

Good first step Per, perhaps there's hope for you yet!

You turned your back on your policy of truth at all costs 4 years ago.

Help me help you to free you from the pit of bullshit into which you have fallen.

Help me help you to find a cure for Trump Derangement Syndrome!

Per wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:22 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm And what’s wrong with a conspiracy theory or two?

Among other things, it undermines the trust in democracy and government, thus paving the way for a failed society.

Oh, you mean like when ALL of the Dem leaders... for years... spread conspiracy theories such as:

The President conspired with the Russkies to steal the election and the Prez is a white supremacist?



Ole Per is outraged... OUTRAGED I SAY... by the spreading of lies!


BTW you only addressed a small portion of my post, fair to say you agree with the bulk of that post then?

.
Here's the bulk of that post of mine Per:

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm “Mitch McConnell has money coming in from Russia.”

Ooookaaaayyy...

To folks who attended Trump’s rallies: “How STUPID can you be that you follow this president?!!”

Deplorables? Hilly, this one is on you.

“Apparent negligence… perhaps purposeful… on saving lives in this pandemic... His calamitous coronavirus leadership,
he could be keeping people alive, he’s choosing not to.”

Ahhh, so he's a mass murderer!

“You can be sure that you’ll never see me on Fifth Avenue, EVER! EVER!! Because he has said that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, I believe him.”



*ahem*

Bat. Shit. Crazy.

She actually claimed on national television that the President of the USA is going to shoot someone (possibly her).

Typical case of Trump Derangement Syndrome...

“If you’re sensing a little intensity here, I’m a little amped up because this is an emergency.”

"A little"?

So this "emergency" goes back 14 years to the alleged (disproved) Stormy affair

... to the disproved Russia-collusion smear campaign

... to her imagined he's-a-murderer madness.

Obviously her "emergency" is that it is obvious to her that Lord Trump is going to be reelected.

Mika in November:

Per, I am so glad we agree on all of that!

Interesting revelations from someone who was in the room.
Also good to see that more and more republicans follow their conscience and abandon Trump.

Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:24 am Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

I don’t think it’s the right thing for him to say probably no.

But I do believe it is the only way he loses is massive fraud via the mail in ballet system.

rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:24 am Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

I don’t think it’s the right thing for him to say probably no.

But I do believe it is the only way he loses is massive fraud via the mail in ballet system.

Sorry - the ONLY way he will lose is if there is fraud?

Not because the people of the United States are tired of his antics and his division of the country, at least in their opinion this is occurring?

And no I am not going to get into a multi post discussion on how this is not occurring so I do not need links, we can all just agree there is a difference of opinion on what is going on down south of us.

He has a core group of supporters. They are not the majority. To say he could only lose via fraud is playing right along with his sense of entitlement. All we heard from him in 2016 was how elections were rigged (with no proof, of course) - and then when he won - "of course they aren't rigged, I won". The man is doing what he can to preemptively cast doubt on the 2020 election results. Why would he do this? Because just like 2016, he doesn't expect to win. He would rather sow disinformation and rile up his supporters than accept the fact that he could actually lose. It's pathetic. It's wrong. It's dangerous.

Here's a recent article explaining just one more reason while he should lose: LINK

Miles Taylor served at the Department of Homeland Security from 2017 to 2019, including as chief of staff.

After serving for more than two years in the Department of Homeland Security’s leadership during the Trump administration, I can attest that the country is less secure as a direct result of the president’s actions.

rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:24 am Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

I don’t think it’s the right thing for him to say probably no.

But I do believe it is the only way he loses is massive fraud via the mail in ballet system.

So, the Russians have won, eh?

You no longer believe that the USA is a functioning democracy?

I mean, the traditional view is that the outcome of an election is determined by the voters.

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:06 am

rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:24 am Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

I don’t think it’s the right thing for him to say probably no.

But I do believe it is the only way he loses is massive fraud via the mail in ballet system.

Sorry - the ONLY way he will lose is if there is fraud?

Not because the people of the United States are tired of his antics and his division of the country, at least in their opinion this is occurring?

I don't think most Americans agree with the bolded.

I know I don't...

Per wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:57 am

rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:24 am Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

I don’t think it’s the right thing for him to say probably no.

But I do believe it is the only way he loses is massive fraud via the mail in ballet system.

So, the Russians have won, eh?

You no longer believe that the USA is a functioning democracy?

I mean, the traditional view is that the outcome of an election is determined by the voters.

I think what Ratski is saying is that IF USA goes with mail-in ballots

... this particular election could result in massive fraud.

USPS is mightily fucked up btw.

And btw it's Commie China, not Russia that is helping the Dems.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:35 pm

Per wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:57 am

rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am

2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:24 am Rats and SL - do you 2 think it is actually ok for the Trump to say the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged because of mail in ballots?

I don’t think it’s the right thing for him to say probably no.

But I do believe it is the only way he loses is massive fraud via the mail in ballet system.

So, the Russians have won, eh?

You no longer believe that the USA is a functioning democracy?

I mean, the traditional view is that the outcome of an election is determined by the voters.

I think what Ratski is saying is that IF USA goes with mail-in ballots

... this particular election could result in massive fraud.

It's also true that IF USA goes with mail-in ballots

... this particular election could be the most fair and accurate ever.

See, saying something COULD happen is not really saying anything at all.

Instead, why don't you tell us why you think massive fraud is a real possibility.

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:58 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:35 pm I think what Ratski is saying is that IF USA goes with mail-in ballots

... this particular election could result in massive fraud.

USPS is mightily fucked up btw.

And btw it's Commie China, not Russia that is helping the Dems.

It's also true that IF USA goes with mail-in ballots

... this particular election could be the most fair and accurate ever.

See, saying something COULD happen is not really saying anything at all.

Instead, why don't you tell us why you think massive fraud is a real possibility.

I was merely stated what I thought Ratski was getting at.

And it sounds like you are oblivious to what just happened with Democratic primary in New York...