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I have high hopes for Tryamkin too, but he still needs a lot of work. Caught out of position quite often, and his first pass is atrocious. Why does he have to fire a rocket every time! But he has the compete in him like Stecher.

Topper wrote:
Googled Tad.

Is that what you call it ?

Hockey Widow wrote:
Hutton was a little bit of a let down to me but perhaps the sophomore jinx. But if we manage to keep Sbisa through the expansion draft I see him as a sought after Dman that might help us bring in a proven top six. Otherwise, his future is bright here but like Stetcher his D needs to improve.

This doesn't make much sense. If Vegas doesn't take Sbisa he will all of a sudden manage to be a key piece in returning a top 6 forward? Doesn't add up. Personally I hope Sutter is taken in the expansion draft and Sbisa either gets moved or finishes the last year of his contract.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:

Hockey Widow wrote:
Hutton was a little bit of a let down to me but perhaps the sophomore jinx. But if we manage to keep Sbisa through the expansion draft I see him as a sought after Dman that might help us bring in a proven top six. Otherwise, his future is bright here but like Stetcher his D needs to improve.

This doesn't make much sense. If Vegas doesn't take Sbisa he will all of a sudden manage to be a key piece in returning a top 6 forward? Doesn't add up. Personally I hope Sutter is taken in the expansion draft and Sbisa either gets moved or finishes the last year of his contract.

Sorry, I meant if we don't lose Sbisa then we can afford to trade a Dman and Hutton could be a piece highly sought after that could be used to try and land a top six. Of course that assumes Juolevi is only a year or two away from making the Canucks.

But if we lose Sbisa I would be reluctant to trade another Dman this year.

I don't think Sbisa is a piece to help us get a proven top six.

Sorry Wids. I should have known better.

2-3 years?

Doc said 1-2 years.

Someone is lying.

Aren't we down to 1.5 now, so October 2019 is when it all happens?

1-2 years before we are competitive. 2-3 years before we win the Cup

Hockey Widow wrote:1-2 years before we are competitive. 2-3 years before we win the Cup

On a serious note, regardless of all the prospects we have we need 1-2 to become bonafide first line players with 70+ points.

We are a lottery team next season as well. I anticipate we will be sellers again ar the next deadline as well. The Sedins, Edler, Eriksson and Miller if he comes back - sold?

Either way the new era will be exciting to watch unfold even if we are lottery bound again

The 2018-19 season will be fun - Boeser, Gaudette, Virtanen, Juolevi, Demko, Goldie, Dahlen, Brisebios etc

Reefer2 wrote: On a serious note, regardless of all the prospects we have we need 1-2 to become bonafide first line players with 70+ points.

Horvat will be there, I have no question in my mind! And we have some blue-chippers that can develop into that type of player without question.

Do you recall how many said the Sedins would never be first line players, would never get 70 points let alone be PPG players and hell would freeze over before they cracked 100 points?

They are coming, patience.

Reefer2 wrote: On a serious note, regardless of all the prospects we have we need 1-2 to become bonafide first line players with 70+ points.

I'd say Horvat has 70-point upside. From his rookie year, I was expecting 10-points/year improvement, but he's actually increased his production by 15 points each of the last two seasons (assuming he keeps his current pace, he's looking at 55 points this season).

Baertschi has exceeded my expectations this season, and was on pace for 45 points. I don't know if he could crack 70 points, maybe in a career year, but 50+ seems more likely than not.

If Bo and Bear both crack 50 points next season, that isn't a top-level First Line, however it is a marked improvement over this year's top line production.

I was totally with the whole 1-2 years thing before they traded away Honey Badger for Goldielocks. HUGE mistake! From this point forward, Hansen will play more NHL games than Goldielocks. In the whole fight or flight response Honey Badger is total fight, and Goldielocks is flight. Hansen will still be playing well in the NHL in six years. Goldielocks will find bigger ice where there is more room to hide in the KHL by then. This fight relation to adrenaline is the reason Stecher will develop into a stud, while Larsen never will. Benning definitely bought some fool's gold. Goldielocks may score some goals in garbage time, but he'll disappear when the intensity rises. Sorry to say, this one trade will set back the Canucks a year. The Canucks are definitely in the 2-3 year range since that trade. Thankfully Benning nailed it on the Burrows trade.

Cherry Picker wrote:I was totally with the whole 1-2 years thing before they traded away Honey Badger for Goldielocks. HUGE mistake! From this point forward, Hansen will play more NHL games than Goldielocks. In the whole fight or flight response Honey Badger is total fight, and Goldielocks is flight. Hansen will still be playing well in the NHL in six years. Goldielocks will find bigger ice where there is more room to hide in the KHL by then. This fight relation to adrenaline is the reason Stecher will develop into a stud, while Larsen never will. Benning definitely bought some fool's gold. Goldielocks may score some goals in garbage time, but he'll disappear when the intensity rises. Sorry to say, this one trade will set back the Canucks a year. The Canucks are definitely in the 2-3 year range since that trade. Thankfully Benning nailed it on the Burrows trade.

Good call. Hansen was our transitional piece, in many ways.

Cherry Picker wrote:I was totally with the whole 1-2 years thing before they traded away Honey Badger for Goldielocks. HUGE mistake! From this point forward, Hansen will play more NHL games than Goldielocks. In the whole fight or flight response Honey Badger is total fight, and Goldielocks is flight. Hansen will still be playing well in the NHL in six years. Goldielocks will find bigger ice where there is more room to hide in the KHL by then. This fight relation to adrenaline is the reason Stecher will develop into a stud, while Larsen never will. Benning definitely bought some fool's gold. Goldielocks may score some goals in garbage time, but he'll disappear when the intensity rises. Sorry to say, this one trade will set back the Canucks a year. The Canucks are definitely in the 2-3 year range since that trade. Thankfully Benning nailed it on the Burrows trade.

I disagree, I think Hansen's style of play will lead to further injuries as he gets older making recovery more difficult. He will miss more and more games, while he may play 6 more seasons I think it's unlikely he plays full seasons for many if any of them.

Goldobin isn't the defensive stalwart Hansen is but he's talent we're missing, goal scoring ability. It was worth the risk! Plus we got a 4th and possible 1st round pick out of the deal.

The time to deal Hansen was now!