The Petey Predicament

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Can we not all agree that where it all went wrong was not signing Horvat to a fair contract and sticking with Miller instead who (Miller) at the time had established himself as a hothead in the room. The domino’s started from there and went south…south…and south, one direction.

Glad to see BO2max getting the Olympic nod. It all falls into place, a slap in the face, highlighting the shite work done by this management group.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:48 am Can we not all agree that where it all went wrong was not signing Horvat to a fair contract and sticking with Miller instead who (Miller) at the time had established himself as a hothead in the room. The domino’s started from there and went south…south…and south, one direction.

Glad to see BO2max getting the Olympic nod. It all falls into place, a slap in the face, highlighting the shite work done by this management group.
I think most would agree with that, in hindsight. At the time JT was a an 80-90 point player, soon to be a 100 point player. He was the heart and soul of the team.He could carry the team on his back and was one of the most entertaining players, warts and all. I remember Bieksa saying you dont trade a JT Miller, you just don't. Most fans giving their say wanted to keep JT, with some notable exceptions. I think had they traded JT back then, without us knowing about the locker room dramatics, would have caused a major fan explosion.

So yes in hindsight, the better move way back then would have been to extend Bo, trade JT for a shitload because he was at an all time high. I doubt anyone could have predicted the team absolutely falling off the cliff. But throw into the equation that there was an inkling that Quinn would not re-sign with us, an inkling, and you have to wonder if every move that was made was made to try to appease him? Because that would have been the biggest failure.
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Hard to know but given where we are now and where we once were and not too long ago, it is as clear as day management made the wrong decision to begin this horrific journey (Horvat) and since then have tried to make right on the original mistake but only digging themselves a deeper hole each time they try. They should just excuse themselves from the show.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:03 am Hard to know but given where we are now and where we once were and not too long ago, it is as clear as day management made the wrong decision to begin this horrific journey (Horvat) and since then have tried to make right on the original mistake but only digging themselves a deeper hole each time they try. They should just excuse themselves from the show.
You mean that Bo who was named to Canada's Olympic Team?
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Hockey Widow wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:08 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:03 am Hard to know but given where we are now and where we once were and not too long ago, it is as clear as day management made the wrong decision to begin this horrific journey (Horvat) and since then have tried to make right on the original mistake but only digging themselves a deeper hole each time they try. They should just excuse themselves from the show.
You mean that Bo who was named to Canada's Olympic Team?
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You mean the Bo Horvat that you crucified for his drive by in LA leaving OEL (another guy you are slicing and dicing today) to do the defending post cheap hit...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who you consistently and continually challenged his Captaincy abilities...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who you consistently and continually lambasted for shitty conditioning and an ability to go hard for a complete shift...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who shat on the team and we fans his first post game interview in Long Island...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who insisted on a top dollar contract and term (kind of like our buddy EP did when demanding more than Nylander) while JT agreed to a home town discount (even though he is one of those Yanks who NEVER would finish their career in Canada)...that one?

Yeah...we should have known.

Unfortunately few of us have the talent for down the road adjustments like you do....
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donlever wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:25 am You mean the Bo Horvat that you crucified for his drive by in LA leaving OEL (another guy you are slicing and dicing today) to do the defending post cheap hit...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who you consistently and continually challenged his Captaincy abilities...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who you consistently and continually lambasted for shitty conditioning and an ability to go hard for a complete shift...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who shat on the team and we fans his first post game interview in Long Island...that one?

You mean the Bo Horvat who insisted on a top dollar contract and term (kind of like our buddy EP did when demanding more than Nylander) while JT agreed to a home town discount (even though he is one of those Yanks who NEVER would finish their career in Canada)...that one?

Yeah...we should have known.

Unfortunately few of us have the talent for down the road adjustments like you do....
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Lol...you asked if we all agreed and I don't and gave you several reasons why.

There is zero wrong with my post and it states 100% facts.

Did you not say all those things Dude?

I'm not gonna pull a Doc on you and pull them all up but you did.

A bit sensitive these days it seems.
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donlever wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:37 am Lol...you asked if we all agreed and I don't and gave you several reasons why.
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Using the power of hindsight, I would say keeping Bo and JT and ditching Peter was the optimal move way back. Quinn might have even stuck around in that scenario, and I suspect Tocchet might have as well.

Of course, the fans would have burned the city to the ground lol. But, in hindsight...
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:25 pm Using the power of hindsight, I would say keeping Bo and JT and ditching Peter was the optimal move way back. Quinn might have even stuck around in that scenario, and I suspect Tocchet might have as well.

Of course, the fans would have burned the city to the ground lol. But, in hindsight...
It was possible to keep all three in the deserving $8m to $8.5m range.

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Topper wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:38 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:25 pm Using the power of hindsight, I would say keeping Bo and JT and ditching Peter was the optimal move way back. Quinn might have even stuck around in that scenario, and I suspect Tocchet might have as well.

Of course, the fans would have burned the city to the ground lol. But, in hindsight...
It was possible to keep all three in the deserving $8m to $8.5m range.

Low balled Bo and drank Scooter's KoolAid, been shitting the bed ever since.
Rarely do you see a management group in hockey execute so many big, bold, disastrous errors, and yet be left in place by ownership to attempt to dig themselves out. What we are witnessing might in fact be unique to this franchise at this time.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:41 am
donlever wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:37 am Lol...you asked if we all agreed and I don't and gave you several reasons why.
Wow…sure did fool me.
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Topper wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:38 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:25 pm Using the power of hindsight, I would say keeping Bo and JT and ditching Peter was the optimal move way back. Quinn might have even stuck around in that scenario, and I suspect Tocchet might have as well.

Of course, the fans would have burned the city to the ground lol. But, in hindsight...
It was possible to keep all three in the deserving $8m to $8.5m range.

Low balled Bo and drank Scooter's KoolAid, been shitting the bed ever since.
And there it is.
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There might have been another alternative reality in which mgmt rectified their mistake and made that trade with Carolina... again, who knows if it was ever close or if the rumour was even real.

Necas (as a winger) would have given them an extra year of a value contract, giving them some leeway to have more cap space to find a younger 2C. Also, there might not ever have been the re-signing of Brock. Mo' money. Maybe then the captain stays, maybe this maybe that...

Of course, this is all speculation. Hindsight and crystal balls don't exist either.
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