Rebooted Around the League - 23/24

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Re: Rebooted Around the League - 23/24

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Q, Bowman and others failed to act when the issue came to their attention. They were concerned about the distraction during the teams playoff run instead of being concerned with the victim.

They were the emergency crew driving past the accident scene because they had an appointment for an oil change instead of stopping the ambulance and assisting the injured.
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JelloPuddingPop wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:34 am
UWSaint wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:12 am UK's Post
I completely agree with the assessment of Q's qualities as a coach... if Rick had just a little less success this year, or stumbles out of the gate next year - I'll be the first in line hoping for a Coach Q replacement, the guy just wins.

My comment was more on of the Blue Jacket's not wanting any perceived backlash from the cancel-culture types that exist, and want to make sure no one is given a 2nd chance.

This is a real problem these days, as in my book, if you've done the time, you've paid for the crime - move on. That's how the "justice system" works.

The fact that reports are out there, saying Columbus has "no interest" in Q is pointing in that direction. He is the best coach available, why wouldn't a team at least explore this? Unless Q has told them to fuck off?

Gun-shy.
Not sure how woke Columbus, Ohio is these days. Aren't they one of those 'rust-belt' states that swooned to Trump in 2016?

There's a key difference between Cock and Q: Cock has such a bad reputation with players that no one will play for him. I don't believe Q has that problem. Market and optics considerations about certain staff can be mitigated to a degree depending on the case. If a if a coaching candidate has lost the room before he's even hired, that's much harder to fix.

Even so, I can imagine a repeat performance of contrition by Quenneville at least if he ever does get hired as a head coach - even if only to appease the rainbow-haired mobs who don't even live in Ohio.
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Re: Rebooted Around the League - 23/24

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Topper wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:27 am Q, Bowman and others failed to act when the issue came to their attention. They were concerned about the distraction during the teams playoff run instead of being concerned with the victim.

They were the emergency crew driving past the accident scene because they had an appointment for an oil change instead of stopping the ambulance and assisting the injured.
Yup. Hence the very long suspension. And I'm with Jello. He's formally paid for the error in judgment, he's had his "reeducation," time to move on.
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Woke? Rainbow-haired mobs?

I thought we were talking about sexual assault.
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5thhorseman wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:43 pm Woke? Rainbow-haired mobs?

I thought we were talking about sexual assault.
Wait I thought it was that he dropped an N-bomb on someone who was playing rap music...
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Suter signs league min $775,000 one year deal with the Blues.
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Difficult teammate is rumoured.

Interested to see how Boqvist performs in Florida under a similarly styled contract.
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Topper wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:59 pm Suter signs league min $775,000 one year deal with the Blues.
$2.225M in potential bonuses though (35+ contract).

Just noticed he'll be 40 years old in January. :wow:
donlever wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:01 pm Interested to see how Boqvist performs in Florida under a similarly styled contract.
Well no cuz...

https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1811216598663078015
Ryan Suter contract structure.

1 yr deal $775,000 base (could make up to $3m)
Bonus structure:
10 GP $225,000
30 GP $400,000
40 GP $500,000
60 GP or more $600,000
Qualify for playoffs and plays in at least 60 regular season games=$500,000
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There is a rumour floating around that the Rangers are now discussing buy out Trouba as they have been unable to trade him for whatever they think works cap wise.
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Strangelove wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:56 pm
Well no cuz...
Yeah..poor wording and not what I meant at all but thanks for being thorough with your provision of data.

...I wonder how Boqvist will perform on a low end contract in Florida.

Will he buy himself a future in the league?

Better?

Gotta think you knew what I was attempting to imply..
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I just thought I was getting dragged into it against my will
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:24 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:43 pm Woke? Rainbow-haired mobs?

I thought we were talking about sexual assault.
Wait I thought it was that he dropped an N-bomb on someone who was playing rap music...
That was Bill Peters during his time with Calgary. Got exiled to the KHL after that. Now coaching in Lethbridge. We'll see if he gets rehabilitated at the NHL-level. Compared to Quenneville's case, it's a bit more damning because Peters was the culprit of the infraction instead of tacitly condoning someone else's behaviour by inaction - as was the case with Q and Bowman.

As for sexual assault vs. woke mobs, what was a simple - if sensational - case of sexual assault got swooped up by a cause which is more interested in canceling people in power than changing behaviour. To those folks, there is no question of their rehabilitation - they are forever stained.
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Didn’t Bill Peter’s call Eddie Lack the worst goalie in the NHL when he was in Carolina. Hell, I coulda told him that.
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Topper wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:59 pm Suter signs league min $775,000 one year deal with the Blues.
He looked washed up in the playoffs to me. I wonder if the Blues were paying attention.
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Strangelove wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:56 pm
Topper wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:59 pm Suter signs league min $775,000 one year deal with the Blues.
$2.225M in potential bonuses though (35+ contract).

Just noticed he'll be 40 years old in January. :wow:
donlever wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:01 pm Interested to see how Boqvist performs in Florida under a similarly styled contract.
Well no cuz...

https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1811216598663078015
Ryan Suter contract structure.

1 yr deal $775,000 base (could make up to $3m)
Bonus structure:
10 GP $225,000
30 GP $400,000
40 GP $500,000
60 GP or more $600,000
Qualify for playoffs and plays in at least 60 regular season games=$500,000
Could that also be read as….

$775k

+ up to $600k in GP bonuses

+ $500k for playoff qualification?

I mean, he gets $225k after 10GP, then he gets an additional $175K at 30GP to take him to $400k then another $100k at game 40 to reach $500k…..

I would assume that bonuses are calculated at the end of the season. So if he played 60 games and the make the playoffs he ends up with $1.1M in bonuses…..retroactive cap hit of $1.85M which sees the bonus paid forward to next year’s cap?

I’m only interpreting it that way because Suter is not worth more than a sub $2M cap hit at this point in his career, so it makes no sense to give him bonuses like that which are very easily achievable in a league where even a 7th D can end up getting 60 games just doing spot duty for injury relief. The Blues could probably miss the playoffs again, so little risk for the $500k bonus. But the way you’ve said it is totalled up does make for an easy $1.725M cap hit on the books for next season in forwarded bonuses. There can’t have been that much competition for Suter’s services, and he doesn’t have a Cup, so at 40 he must have been willing to take chump change with any contender (which St Louis is not).
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