This (not so) stupid 4 Nations Crap tournament

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Re: This stupid 4 Nations Crap tournament

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The thread gets more action on the Main Board.

You'll be talking to yourself in the IHF.

There is 18 people here ffs.

3 forums should do the trick.
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Re: This stupid 4 Nations Crap tournament

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Mëds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:30 pm
Per wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:22 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:15 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:32 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:34 pm I don't see anything cheesey or gimmicky about the tourney whatsoever. Should be a good event.
Well, how about they start with ‘four nations’ and go from there.

It’s not best on best without Russia.
Because Sweden and Finland likely wouldn't play.
They wouldn’t.

The NHL wanted to include Russia. Sweden, Finland and Czechia made it clear that none of them would participate if Russia was invited.
As soon as the last Russian soldier has left Ukraine they can participate again.
Czechia doesn’t have enough NHL players to ice a competitive roster. So who cares what they think.

But again, it is an NHL event. Host the tournament and just call them teams Red, Blue, Yellow, White, and Black. Fuck the politics. I guarantee you the players wouldn’t sit out. Or are there NHL player refusing to step on the ice with Ovechkin when Washington is in town?
When Ovechkin is playing in a Capitols jersey he is representing Washington. When he is playing in a Team Russia jersey he is representing Putin. Huge difference. That being said, I am hugely disappointed in the Capitols organization for not making him change his instagram profile picture.

And there have been rumours about Bäckström not really being injured… hasn’t played for almost two years now.
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Re: This stupid 4 Nations Crap tournament

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Per wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:51 pm
Mëds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:30 pm
Per wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:22 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:15 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:32 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:34 pm I don't see anything cheesey or gimmicky about the tourney whatsoever. Should be a good event.
Well, how about they start with ‘four nations’ and go from there.

It’s not best on best without Russia.
Because Sweden and Finland likely wouldn't play.
They wouldn’t.

The NHL wanted to include Russia. Sweden, Finland and Czechia made it clear that none of them would participate if Russia was invited.
As soon as the last Russian soldier has left Ukraine they can participate again.
Czechia doesn’t have enough NHL players to ice a competitive roster. So who cares what they think.

But again, it is an NHL event. Host the tournament and just call them teams Red, Blue, Yellow, White, and Black. Fuck the politics. I guarantee you the players wouldn’t sit out. Or are there NHL player refusing to step on the ice with Ovechkin when Washington is in town?
When Ovechkin is playing in a Capitols jersey he is representing Washington. When he is playing in a Team Russia jersey he is representing Putin. Huge difference. That being said, I am hugely disappointed in the Capitols organization for not making him change his instagram profile picture.

And there have been rumours about Bäckström not really being injured… hasn’t played for almost two years now.
His IG profile is his very own. Freedom of expression is a thing in the US of A. You should be endorsing the organization for upholding the first amendment.

If Backstrom isn’t injured, and he’s sitting out because of Ovie, then he should request a trade. I suspect Washington would move him without the request if that was the case or move to terminate his contract for that sort of refusal to play. Besides, if he’s sitting out in protest, Washington is 2nd overall, with Ovie chasing down the all-time scoring title, without Backstrom…..then fuck him, clearly he’s redundant at this point.

To say that he’s representing Putin when he wears a Russia jersey is the same as saying that Canadian players are representing Trudeau when they don the Maple Leaf. An obtuse perspective if ever there was one.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
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Mëds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:27 pm
Per wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:15 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:46 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:35 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:34 pm The timing of it is stupid.

The cheese is making a nation vs nation tournament but NHL only. This means that McDavid will be up against Ekholm.....do you think Ekholm is gonna see 97 on the sleeve of the jersey and still go as hard into the boards as he would if this was summer tournie?
Interesting.....so how would this scenario be any different if this was an Olympic event?
The history of the tournament. This cash grab is meaningless beyond some simple bragging rights.
My understanding is that since very few North American players have any experience of international hockey since there hasn’t been participation in the Olympics for some time, the NHL/USA/Canada wanted this as a dress rehearsal for next year’s Olympic tournament.
And both Finland and Sweden will go full throttle. The players take immense pride in playing for their country.
So you think that Ekholm will take a full on run at McDavid as he 97 drives the net and risk concussing his Oiler superstar teammate in order to win it for the Blue and Gold?


And again, mods, shouldn’t this be in the International Hockey section of the board?

Will Zibanejad run Fox through the end wall on the forecheck?

Is Forsling gonna take the lumber to Barkov in front of the net with the same intensity he might against Rantanen?

And again, mods, shouldn’t this be in the International Hockey section of the board?
It is an NHL event, not an IIHF tournament. Only NHL players…..so it can stay here or go there. I doubt it matters.
They won't hit any softer in a 4 Nations Cup than they would if it was Olympics.
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Mëds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:52 pm If Backstrom isn’t injured, and he’s sitting out because of Ovie, then he should request a trade. I suspect Washington would move him without the request if that was the case or move to terminate his contract for that sort of refusal to play. Besides, if he’s sitting out in protest, Washington is 2nd overall, with Ovie chasing down the all-time scoring title, without Backstrom…..then fuck him, clearly he’s redundant at this point.

To say that he’s representing Putin when he wears a Russia jersey is the same as saying that Canadian players are representing Trudeau when they don the Maple Leaf. An obtuse perspective if ever there was one.
Yeah, the Bäckström thing is just a rumour that he himself vehemently denies. The rumour is still there though.

And there is a stark difference between Canada and Russia. Canada is a democracy and Trudeau can and will be gone by the next election, while Russia is a dictatorship that has been ruled by the despotic Putin for 25 years now. Any serious contender to the throne ends up dead, basically anyone who dares criticize him does, and Putin keeps invading neighbours and committing sabotage and acts of terrorism throughout Europe. It is not the same. There is a reason why Russia is banned from most international competitions at present.
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Per is working over Mëds pretty good in this thread.
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Per is a very formidable opponent when it comes to debating politics, he’s torn Topper to shreds a number of times. Topper has shown to be quite bitter about it as well.
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It only makes sense that if Per has dismantled Wiebo in the past that he's going after his chief lieutenant now.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:07 am It only makes sense that if Per has dismantled Wiebo in the past that he's going after his chief lieutenant now.
They don’t have an answer for Per, plain and simple, he shuts them down every time.
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Its like watching Samuel Paulsson take the puck away from Hillbilly Dale Weise and Byron Bitz and refuse to give it back.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:16 am Its like watching Samuel Paulsson take the puck away from Hillbilly Dale Weise and Byron Bitz and refuse to give it back.
Pers dangles are relentless, he turns those two inside and out all the time, they have no answer, they are mere pylons.
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I can see Mëds freaking out chasing Per around the ice trying to potatoe punch him while Per Pahlsson sprays snow at the big fella while Wiebo is bonked out in the corner like Olli Juolevi.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:30 am I can see Mëds freaking out chasing Per around the ice trying to potatoe punch him while Per Pahlsson sprays snow at the big fella while Wiebo is bonked out in the corner like Olli Juolevi.
I always find Topper’s responses to Per resembling Miller’s response to Brayden Schenn. Eating Knuckle sandwiches. Per is like Bob Nystrom.
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Wiebo107 and Meds107 are no match for Per Nystrom when the gloves come off.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:55 am Wiebo107 and Meds107 are no match for Per Nystrom when the gloves come off.
That is what we like to refer to as - a known known.
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