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Topper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm Kamala Harris will blow life into his campaign.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:26 pm
Are you sure it wasn't magic fairies?

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:52 pm

Topper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm Kamala Harris will blow life into his campaign.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:26 pm

Per wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:13 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:48 am Per also believed in the Trump vs Hillary polls.

She had a solid lead before the Russians interfered

Are you sure it wasn't magic fairies?

Per wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:26 pm

Per wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:13 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:48 am Per also believed in the Trump vs Hillary polls.

She had a solid lead before the Russians interfered

Are you sure it wasn't magic fairies?

Yup. All branches of US intelligence agreed that it was the Russians. So, it seems pretty clear.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:37 pm ... so why are you whiny leftists making such a big deal about it all of a sudden.

Per wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:13 pm She had a solid lead before the

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November.

In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen documents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.

That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia’s interference in the election.

Within the Executive Branch, these investigatory efforts ultimately led to the May 2017 appointment of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III. The order appointing the Special Counsel authorized him to investigate “the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.

As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit
electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

Per wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:13 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:48 am .
Per also believed in the Trump vs Hillary polls.

She had a solid lead before the Russians interfered through Assange.
And even after the Russian intervention a majority of American voters chose her to be their president.

Sadly, the outdated 19th century electorate college did not mirror the will of the voters.

Per wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:41 am

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November.

In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen documents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.

That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia’s interference in the election.

Within the Executive Branch, these investigatory efforts ultimately led to the May 2017 appointment of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III. The order appointing the Special Counsel authorized him to investigate “the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.

As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit
electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:24 am

Per wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:13 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:48 am .
Per also believed in the Trump vs Hillary polls.

She had a solid lead before the Russians interfered through Assange.
And even after the Russian intervention a majority of American voters chose her to be their president.

Sadly, the outdated 19th century electorate college did not mirror the will of the voters.

Same problem in Canada. Our PM and his party, though leading a minority government, received fewer total votes than the Conservative party, yet they won more seats. Kind've a busted system.

How do they do it in Sweden Per? Do all candidates grab their swords and axes and just have a good old fashioned viking honor tournament? Last man standing in each riding gets the seat?

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:37 pm I see.

And is there any proof that the Russkies managed to get so much as one single voter to change his/her vote?