Rebooted Around the League - 23/24

[Chef Boi RD]

Mack is built like Crosby. What a well rounded player and good kid. He's going to be a beauty of a player. They better get a couple of thugs to protect he and Will Smith.

I'm curious how Mike Grier does there as a manger. I like some of his moves/picks. Anaheim is another team to watch. Both could be teams to watch by 2026.

He reminded me mostly of Crosby of what I saw of him, a real solid well rounded game. The Sharks future is looking solid with Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Dickinson and Musty to build around. The Ducks and Utah look primed for tha future as well. Calgary should be drafting top 3 over the next two drafts.

[donlever]

Again.

Great interview with the kid on Chiclets last week.

Very mature and focused with defined intent.

(Crosby like even beyond the hockey...)

Anyway, worth a listen.

[Meds]

Again.

Great interview with the kid on Chiclets last week.

Very mature and focused with defined intent.

(Crosby like even beyond the hockey...)

Anyway, worth a listen.

Sounds like someone should try some clandestine tampering to lure the Vancouver boy home via the NCAA back door.

[Chef Boi RD]

Again.

Great interview with the kid on Chiclets last week.

Very mature and focused with defined intent.

(Crosby like even beyond the hockey...)

Anyway, worth a listen.

Sounds like someone should try some clandestine tampering to lure the Vancouver boy home via the NCAA back door.

His family currently lives in the San Jose area due to his old man’s job. He’s sorta kinda already home.

[Aaronp18]

Maybe the Sedins could help?!

Hmm, I may be incorrect but they should have 4 years of NCAA eligibility left!

[Megaterio Llamas]

Looks to me like Columbus is waiting on Joel Quenneville as their new head coach. I'm not sure what else explains nothing getting done this late into summer.

I think he is eligible to go back to work Wednesday.

[donlever]

Helluva Jr. Team....

[JelloPuddingPop]

Looks to me like Columbus is waiting on Joel Quenneville as their new head coach. I'm not sure what else explains nothing getting done this late into summer.

I think he is eligible to go back to work Wednesday.

I'm not so sure Megs - the Babcock experiment blew up in their faces pretty badly, and never got back on track. My feeling is they might be a bit gun-shy to try something like that again.

Perhaps trying to work out a term for Todd McLellan, or the best looking coach in hockey maybe?

[Madcombinepilot]

Helluva Jr. Team....

Wasn't Gretz only 16 or some shit at that tourny?

[Megaterio Llamas]

Looks to me like Columbus is waiting on Joel Quenneville as their new head coach. I'm not sure what else explains nothing getting done this late into summer.

I think he is eligible to go back to work Wednesday.

I'm not so sure Megs - the Babcock experiment blew up in their faces pretty badly, and never got back on track. My feeling is they might be a bit gun-shy to try something like that again.

Perhaps trying to work out a term for Todd McLellan, or the best looking coach in hockey maybe?

Yeah, I considered that JPP but Quenneville is certainly no Mike Babcock. There's no real history, or risk of him getting himself in the kind of hot water Babcock gets himself into.

[JelloPuddingPop]

Looks to me like Columbus is waiting on Joel Quenneville as their new head coach. I'm not sure what else explains nothing getting done this late into summer.

I think he is eligible to go back to work Wednesday.

I'm not so sure Megs - the Babcock experiment blew up in their faces pretty badly, and never got back on track. My feeling is they might be a bit gun-shy to try something like that again.

Perhaps trying to work out a term for Todd McLellan, or the best looking coach in hockey maybe?

Yeah, I considered that JPP but Quenneville is certainly no Mike Babcock. There's no real history, or risk of him getting himself in the kind of hot water Babcock gets himself into.

Yeah, I get that - asshole vs. win at all costs, not the same issue. I was more referring to the fan, media and sponsor backlash Columbus went through with The Cock. Ownership likely has a FAFO ultimatum with Mgmt. going forward.

[BoS]

Would Q even consider Columbus?

[Megaterio Llamas]

Would Q even consider Columbus?

We should find out pretty soon Blades.

Today is the day he and Stan Bowman are officially reinstated and eligible to sign with teams.

[UWSaint]

Looks to me like Columbus is waiting on Joel Quenneville as their new head coach. I'm not sure what else explains nothing getting done this late into summer.

I think he is eligible to go back to work Wednesday.

I'm not so sure Megs - the Babcock experiment blew up in their faces pretty badly, and never got back on track. My feeling is they might be a bit gun-shy to try something like that again.

Perhaps trying to work out a term for Todd McLellan, or the best looking coach in hockey maybe?

I don't know the whole story of what happened in Chicago -- I think a lot of it is out there but I didn't track it closely -- but my impression was the Quenneville's error was primarily one of omission. There's a reason there is so much more training for coaches and managers on this subject area these days. Because many people handled them poorly. There are lots of reasons why people handle them poorly, and I won't get into them here. Those reasons aren't justifications for inaction, but suffice it to say, it helps considerably to have training and policies on how to address allegations of sexual misconduct and that doing so promptly is at the top of the stack and not bottom of the pile.

But Q didn't commit the offense itself. And based on the bit on this I have read, I don't see how Q taking more prudent steps would have prevented the assault (though it would have mitigated ongoing harm to the player and potential harms to other players). The penalty for this stuff is liability to the organization. And here it included a personal penalty to Q in the form of the suspension. But he's served his suspension, he's attended the training, and my guess is that no player of team staff member is going to be in greater danger with Q as a head coach than, say, Rick Tochett.
Based on the bits I know about the matter, the suspension was serious and proportional. But there shouldn't be a reputational "shadow" suspension after the fact. He's not the monster.

In fact, he's one of the greatest NHL coaches of all time, or at least of my lifeime. One of the few that (IMO) really changed the way the game is approached (and in a way that made things more entertaining). He was hired by a rebuilding out-of-the playoffs Blackhawks team, made the playoffs in year one, then won 3 Stanley Cups. When Florida hired him, it was a team with a roster that was a bit of a mess, and had missed the playoff for four consecutive years. I think I remember commenting at the time it was the best free agent acquisition Florida could have made. And they did qualify for the playoffs that first year (which was also his last, he coached 7 games (all wins) the next year before resigning due to the Chicago situation and investigation. And of course he had many good years in St. Louis and Colorado before the what-would-have-been-Hall-of-Fame-making-but-for-the-unpleasantness stint in Chicago.

In an industry that recycles coaches like a Green British Columbian recycles cans, Q has to be on the radar of any team that wants to get better. He's done it before with rebuilding teams, he's had success with veteran teams, he's had success with rag tag teams. I'm not sure if he's got gas in the tank or new tricks up his sleeve, but if he does, he immediately becomes the top coach on the market.

[JelloPuddingPop]

UK's Post

I completely agree with the assessment of Q's qualities as a coach... if Rick had just a little less success this year, or stumbles out of the gate next year - I'll be the first in line hoping for a Coach Q replacement, the guy just wins.

My comment was more on of the Blue Jacket's not wanting any perceived backlash from the cancel-culture types that exist, and want to make sure no one is given a 2nd chance.

This is a real problem these days, as in my book, if you've done the time, you've paid for the crime - move on. That's how the "justice system" works.

The fact that reports are out there, saying Columbus has "no interest" in Q is pointing in that direction. He is the best coach available, why wouldn't a team at least explore this? Unless Q has told them to fuck off?

Gun-shy.