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Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:44 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
BoS wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:52 pm Worked for Pat Quinn
Depends on your definition of "worked".

Pat Quinn never won a Stanley Cup, anywhere. He's probably the best GM in Canucks' history, but that's not as much of an upgrade on Beer League Scoring Champion as we'd like it to be.

Yes, he upgraded a franchise from "laughing stock" to "respectable". But on the scale of what other NHL GMs accomplished over their careers, I don't think that is enough to elevate him to a model of success to emulate.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:55 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
To support your argument RG and accentuate the perennial celebration of mediocrity....JR is three times as successful as Fat Quinn ever was yet draws criticism for every time he wipes his ass or picks his nose

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:50 pm
by donlever
...or looks in a mirror.

Because, you know, chastised, as well, for being geriatric and all that.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:00 pm
by BoS
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:44 pm
BoS wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:52 pm Worked for Pat Quinn
Depends on your definition of "worked".

Pat Quinn never won a Stanley Cup, anywhere. He's probably the best GM in Canucks' history, but that's not as much of an upgrade on Beer League Scoring Champion as we'd like it to be.

Yes, he upgraded a franchise from "laughing stock" to "respectable". But on the scale of what other NHL GMs accomplished over their careers, I don't think that is enough to elevate him to a model of success to emulate.
My definition is that Quinn drwfted Pavel Bure when no other GM believed he was eligible.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:05 pm
by BoS
donlever wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:03 am Just sparking up some off season chit chat with respect to a team that clearly needs a fear inducing, belligerent prick or two to take another step forward.
With all the uncertainty with its UFA’s and rumours around the Canucks, it seems the talk about this priority has fallen by the way side.

This team needs assholes up front in a big big way.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:10 pm
by donlever
BoS wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:00 pm My definition is that Quinn drwfted Pavel Bure when no other GM believed he was eligible.
Burke tells a funny story about he and Quinn as they were determining whether the eligibility was actually there or not.

He and PQ were in the office on Renfrew late one night discussing the topic, sipping whiskey and smoking stogies, when Quinn looked over at Burke and said...

"....the only way we are.going to know for sure is if one of us gets on an airplane to Moscow asap and figures it out...."

Burkie laughed at this point telling the story stating that it was clear "one of us" was obviously him.

I use that line in dealing with staff to this day.....

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:16 pm
by BoS
I love it!

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:09 pm
by Picker of Cherries
Stand Pat Quinn was way overrated as a GM, and way underrated as a coach. Back in their day, I hoped Burke as GM would hire Quinn to coach.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:13 pm
by Strangelove
Picker of Cherries wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:09 pm Stand Pat Quinn was way overrated as a GM, and way underrated as a coach. Back in their day, I hoped Burke as GM would hire Quinn to coach.
Yeah, I've always maintained Quinn was a great coach.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:21 pm
by donlever
Yeah top 20 all time wins.

2 Adams.

The '02 Gold.

To bad about '94, would have capped the career off.

He did okay molding thst team......not great....but gave them a shot....blew it after that.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:17 am
by Strangelove
donlever wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:21 pm He did okay molding thst team......
Thyroid Hormone Suppression Therapy team?

donlever wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:21 pm To bad
To bad or not to bad, thst is the question!

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:39 am
by donlever
:lol:

Touche.

Doc Trouba.

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:11 pm
by Topper
Too bad that you had to get caught ...

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:28 pm
by Strangelove
So sad (so sad), so sad (so saaa-ad)

Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:35 pm
by donlever
Topper wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:11 pm Too bad that you had to get caught ...
It's not like me to lose face....