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Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:24 am
by Mickey107
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Zaitsev contract; .
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/nikita-zaitsev
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Zaitsev stats; .
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=122837
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Even someone as dumbass as Dubas can see this is a horrible contract.
I wouldn't even take this guy if it was just for the money.
My Gawd, we would have to give something to TO in a trade.
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NYET
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:05 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Someone will go long on Edler. At least for 5 I'd bet
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
by SKYO
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
by Richardstroker69
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
His agent was on 650, saying he was coming back.... I’d say that’s a pretty good indication.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:03 pm
by Strangelove
Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
His agent was on 650, saying he was coming back.... I’d say that’s a pretty good indication.
Blob would trade Tryamkin's rights when his value is as low as it could be.
(2 years after leaving the NHL and 1 year before returning)
Talk about "shitty asset management"... Broom-pusher Blob is the
true Ignatowski.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:15 pm
by Mickey107
Goldy can stick around somewhere to be Tree's friend.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:46 pm
by 2Fingers
Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
His agent was on 650, saying he was coming back.... I’d say that’s a pretty good indication.
Did he? Or did his agent say they were talking with the Canucks and then the local media jumped all over it. I have yet to see any comments written anywhere that is as direct to what you wrote.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:57 pm
by Richardstroker69
Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:46 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
His agent was on 650, saying he was coming back.... I’d say that’s a pretty good indication.
Did he? Or did his agent say they were talking with the Canucks and then the local media jumped all over it. I have yet to see any comments written anywhere that is as direct to what you wrote.
Listen to his agents interview on 650, he full on says when he returns to the nhl.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:12 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:46 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
His agent was on 650, saying he was coming back.... I’d say that’s a pretty good indication.
Did he? Or did his agent say they were talking with the Canucks and then the local media jumped all over it. I have yet to see any comments written anywhere that is as direct to what you wrote.
It was a fluff piece for Doc and his fellow hamburger flippers.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:15 pm
by Richardstroker69
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:12 pm
Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:46 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
As opposed to Edler re-signing?
If Elmer values his job he will stay the fuck away from
Zaitsev. There’s no indication Tryamkin will come back. I’d rather see them trade his rights.
His agent was on 650, saying he was coming back.... I’d say that’s a pretty good indication.
Did he? Or did his agent say they were talking with the Canucks and then the local media jumped all over it. I have yet to see any comments written anywhere that is as direct to what you wrote.
It was a fluff piece for Doc and his fellow hamburger flippers.
Did you even listen to the interview?
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:36 pm
by Rocky Dennis
BladesofSteel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:49 am
Much can happen between now and July 1st.
The objective here is to improve the defence for next year and beyond. If this means moving on from Edler, so be it, but
I don’t believe anything until it’s official.
This far away from free agency seems like this could just be an organizational nudge through the media (i.e.)"hey alex, you're not getting that 3rd year or more. At least not nmc protected."
And good on management. If this guy loves it here so much so as to refuse a trade last season as well as wanting term as a 30+ y/o player as well as nmc protection in the midst of league expansion...well he can go pound sand elsewhere. Sounds like its all take and no give. I think Jimbo's calling a bluff. Let's see if he read the cards right.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:52 pm
by Mickey107
Rocky Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:36 pm
BladesofSteel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:49 am
Much can happen between now and July 1st.
The objective here is to improve the defence for next year and beyond. If this means moving on from Edler, so be it, but
I don’t believe anything until it’s official.
This far away from free agency seems like this could just be an organizational nudge through the media (i.e.)"hey alex, you're not getting that 3rd year or more. At least not nmc protected."
And good on management. If this guy loves it here so much so as to refuse a trade last season as well as wanting term as a 30+ y/o player as well as nmc protection in the midst of league expansion...well he can go pound sand elsewhere. Sounds like its all take and no give. I think Jimbo's calling a bluff. Let's see if he read the cards right.
A subterfuge you say? Would a pro sports team actually do that? There's no doubt that could be the case. Also; this is trickling down
to other NHL cities which could, in effect, alter the playing field.
She's up on the stage but that fat beeetch aint sung yet.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:07 pm
by Hockey Widow
Rocky Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:36 pm
BladesofSteel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:49 am
Much can happen between now and July 1st.
The objective here is to improve the defence for next year and beyond. If this means moving on from Edler, so be it, but
I don’t believe anything until it’s official.
This far away from free agency seems like this could just be an organizational nudge through the media (i.e.)"hey alex, you're not getting that 3rd year or more. At least not nmc protected."
And good on management. If this guy loves it here so much so as to refuse a trade last season as well as wanting term as a 30+ y/o player as well as nmc protection in the midst of league expansion...well he can go pound sand elsewhere. Sounds like its all take and no give. I think Jimbo's calling a bluff. Let's see if he read the cards right.
I just posted this on another thread. Dan Murphy is reporting that the stumbling block with Edler is term, not cap or trade protection. The Canucks are prepared to offer a NTC, just not a NMC. Don’t know how far apart the sides are in term.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:26 pm
by BladesofSteel
Give him more term, and lower his cap hit. Give him a full NTC for 2 years, and a modified for the remaining 2-3.
Front load a 4 year deal worth $24 schmill.
$7.5, $6.5, $5.5, $4.5.