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Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 2:00 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 1:16 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:03 am I neither have the time nor desire. I’m just amazed by how with all this movement the good it’s done.
But your mouth was too full to complain about the blunder train from 2014-2021.
True, but to be fair, Chef appears to have moved on -- at least in his posting pattern.

I think most of the board (all, what -- 14 of us?) has agreed that there is little to be gained at this point by re-hashing the limitations of the Benning administration, or comparing it with the limitations of the Gillis administration, except perhaps as part of some larger historical retrospective on the disappointments of Canucks management.
[e.g. I think we agree that Quinn is the best the franchise has seen, but I've got a lot of problems with even many of his moves.]
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 1:16 pm
I don't love the job these guys are doing.
Agreed.
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 1:16 pm
...but they are light years ahead of the previous crew.
Also true, but that's a low bar, and I think we have reason to expect better, even if many of us agree that the biggest part of the challenge is managing up. This is supposed to be the big leagues.

The value of the Canucks franchise exceeds 2 billion. The hockey-ops component is not as well-run as an average mom & pop corner grocer.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 3:18 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 1:16 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:03 am
donlever wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 7:55 am Your analysis is miscast without demonstrating ROE as a comparable Dude.
I neither have the time nor desire. I’m just amazed by how with all this movement the good it’s done.
But your mouth was too full to complain about the blunder train from 2014-2021.

I don't love the job these guys are doing. In fact I dislike a lot of their moves but they are light years ahead of the previous crew.
Better yes. Light years, no.

It’s been a Royal shit show after the playoffs against the Oilers. But even so with those playoffs, the Petey/Miller gong show that management dropped the ball on in managing was alive and well at the time. Should’ve taken that Necas offer on Petey. That’s where the disaster started after the disaster of deciding to keep Miller over Horvat.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 4:46 pm
by 2Fingers
How accurate is that rumour of the Necas trade?

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 5:08 pm
by Cornuck
2Fingers wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 4:46 pm How accurate is that rumour of the Necas trade?
From what I've read - I've give it about 80% chance of being true - you never know unless you hear it from a reliable source, but the rumours were out there and fairly solid at the time. For what it's worth, AI says it's true :D

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 7:34 am
by donlever
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 2:00 pm ......(all, what -- 14 of us?)
donlever wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:17 pm More than 14

Lancer
Carl
Cuz
Expat
Theman
Corn
Rats
Cherry
JPP
Saint
Mëds
5th
Reef
Tciso
MCP
Dangler
Lever
Cookie
BoS
Ronnings Ghost
Widow
Per
Nuckertuzzi
Rikster
Bersnoozi
Chef
Blob
Megs
Canuckbrod
The rat patrol (3 of)
Several long time lurkers (dchrist quibikal NZfan)

...off the top of my head.

Surely I missed someone(s).....

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:35 am
by Ronning's Ghost
donlever wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 7:34 am
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 2:00 pm ......(all, what -- 14 of us?)
donlever wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:17 pm More than 14...

...Surely I missed someone(s).....
Wow, out by a binary order of magnitude !

I should not have misunderestimated us !

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:27 pm
by Meds
donlever wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 7:34 am
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 2:00 pm ......(all, what -- 14 of us?)
donlever wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:17 pm More than 14…

Surely I missed someone(s).....
I’d say Topper still counts…..probably over his protestations.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:37 pm
by donlever
Well...i can tell you he told me 2 days ago that it will be a long time before he bothers again, if ever, after his most recent posts.

So I left him off the list.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 1:59 pm
by dangler
donlever wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:37 pm Well...i can tell you he told me 2 days ago that it will be a long time before he bothers again, if ever, after his most recent posts.

So I left him off the list.
Do you know if he's still watchin the games?
Just curious

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:07 pm
by donlever
As a rule no, he is paying limited to zero attention.

He's pretty disillusioned with the entire organization top to bottom which, as a long time fan, I think is eminently fair.

His son and friends watch so he catches the odd this and that on occasion.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:12 pm
by 5thhorseman
donlever wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:37 pm Well...i can tell you he told me 2 days ago that it will be a long time before he bothers again, if ever, after his most recent posts.
Isn't that what he said the last time?

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:13 pm
by JelloPuddingPop
5thhorseman wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:12 pm
donlever wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:37 pm Well...i can tell you he told me 2 days ago that it will be a long time before he bothers again, if ever, after his most recent posts.
Isn't that what he said the last time?
And perhaps next time too.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:15 pm
by dangler
donlever wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:07 pm As a rule no, he is paying limited to zero attention.

He's pretty disillusioned with the entire organization top to bottom which, as a long time fan, I think is eminently fair.

His son and friends watch so he catches the odd this and that on occasion.
Understandable, I do miss his game summaries.

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:25 pm
by donlever
RG said 14 people post here

I said no, ur wrong, it is more like 30 and named them

Mëds said add Topper

I said I did not list him because he told me he's done for now

Don't shoot the messenger

...also, this most recent time he came back was because I prodded him not at his personal behest....


And yes dangler...his game summaries were top notch I agree.....

Re: Ownership and Management

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:38 pm
by Carl Yagro
You had to ruin my "18 posters" joke, didn't ya, Donmeister :scowl:

:wink:

What I'm shocked by is, I think RG was actually try making a joke about this... dropping the total down to 14.

Way to go lad, didn't know you had it in you :D

Don't blame Topper one bit.

Ok, back to the serious business...

EDIT: Actually, I can't take credit for this. I think it was Blob who started the "18 posters" thing.