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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:59 am
by Tciso
Mëds wrote:If ownership/management in LA makes a change behind the bench, they are retarded.

If the story is true and the players, who were totally unable to get it done before Sutter showed up, have tuned out the coach that brought them together and guided them to a pair of Stanley Cups in 3 seasons, I think there needs to be a change made on the roster.
I disagree with you. Sutter survived 2 years longer than I expected. He made the Flames over-achieve when he coached there, but burned out the players doing it. He did the same with the Kings too, but managed to keep the team buying in to the system for 3, almost 4 years before burning them out. He's a great short term coach, but he coaches an unsustainable style. He is everything Torts tried to be.

Heck, if LA lets him go, Tarana would be retarded not to pick him up, as I think he could even get their group of mongoloids into the playoffs 2 years in a row before losing the locker room there. But, I don't think he can get the current team in LA to buy back in to playing as hard and tough as they did over the last 4 years again. Those boys are feeling drained.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:14 am
by Cornuck
I was emailing with a friend who's a Kings fan - he had this to say: "I had read recently that coach was at the edge with some players.....and that for some the summer had already started"

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:50 pm
by Hockey Widow
Poor Lombardi, from the LA Times.

Lombardi said it was a "possibility" that the team could buy out the contract of center Mike Richards, whose contract runs through the 2019-20 season, carrying a cap hit of $5.75 million.

Kings defenseman Slava Voynov is facing a felony domestic violence charge and is scheduled to go on trial a few days after free agency starts July 1. He had surgery to repair a ruptured Achilles' tendon and the timetable for recovery could be around the middle of September. Foremost, however, is the legal situation.

"We're right back to where we were at the trade deadline," Lombardi said. "That's the frustrating thing that you can't plan. You want to know one way or the other. Free agency is on July 1. How good is that?

"Could we get it over here, so we know if we can do some things here? But the way this whole thing has gone this year, I guess it's emblematic of so many things that have happened this year."

The Voynov situation really did burn them this year. Getting cap relief for the year helped but they were still prevented from having a long term solution. Now the situation drags into the UFA period.

Lombardi, by the way, confirmed that the dressing room incident did happen. But, he says it happend in Feb in Tampa when the team was on a winning streak. It was more like, we got this coach, we don't need to hear from you, don't jinx us, kinda stuff.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:07 am
by BingoTough
Bruins fire general manager Chiarelli

Hmm. Not sure if this is fair or not. I mean he didn't deliver results in the last year, but he's had a good run of success and they just ran out of steam at the end. I would have thought he'd have a chance to respond.

Oh well.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:48 am
by BurningBeard
BingoTough wrote:Bruins fire general manager Chiarelli

Hmm. Not sure if this is fair or not. I mean he didn't deliver results in the last year, but he's had a good run of success and they just ran out of steam at the end. I would have thought he'd have a chance to respond.

Oh well.
Definitely some questionable deals near the end of his tenure that didn't look great. Definitely some contracts that don't look great, but no GM has a spotless record. I suspected Claude Julien would get the ax and Chiarelli would get another year. I think there's no doubt Julien will be gone before the regular season starts regardless.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:37 am
by BingoTough
BurningBeard wrote:
BingoTough wrote:Bruins fire general manager Chiarelli

Hmm. Not sure if this is fair or not. I mean he didn't deliver results in the last year, but he's had a good run of success and they just ran out of steam at the end. I would have thought he'd have a chance to respond.

Oh well.
Definitely some questionable deals near the end of his tenure that didn't look great. Definitely some contracts that don't look great, but no GM has a spotless record. I suspected Claude Julien would get the ax and Chiarelli would get another year. I think there's no doubt Julien will be gone before the regular season starts regardless.
Agree. I didn't like Seguin, but then that was Benning pushing that...

:wow:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:17 am
by SKYO
Hockey Widow wrote:Poor Lombardi, from the LA Times.
Two Cups and your saying poor lombardi? camman :D
BingoTough wrote:Bruins fire general manager Chiarelli

Hmm. Not sure if this is fair or not. I mean he didn't deliver results in the last year, but he's had a good run of success and they just ran out of steam at the end. I would have thought he'd have a chance to respond.

Oh well.
Gotdamn! Tdot or as you hipsters say Tarrana, is reaping the benefits of others misfortune at a an opportune time. :eh:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:02 pm
by Per
It's been a couple of days, but I haven't seen it here yet; Jagr has signed on for one more year with the Panthers. He is currently 4th in all time scoring in the NHL, and would need another 48 points to catch Howe in third place, but he is also fifth in goal scoring and only needs another 9 to catch Dionne, or 19 to catch Brett Hull. If he scores 20 goals next season he'll be third in goals, behind only Gretzky and Howe. And then consider he spent three seasons, still in his prime, in the KHL, before returning... :?

http://insidersportsnetwork.com/panther ... -contract/

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:07 pm
by Rumsfeld
Per wrote:It's been a couple of days, but I haven't seen it here yet; Jagr has signed on for one more year with the Panthers. He is currently 4th in all time scoring in the NHL, and would need another 48 points to catch Howe in third place, but he is also fifth in goal scoring and only needs another 9 to catch Dionne, or 19 to catch Brett Hull. If he scores 20 goals next season he'll be third in goals, behind only Gretzky and Howe. And then consider he spent three seasons, still in his prime, in the KHL, before returning... :?

http://insidersportsnetwork.com/panther ... -contract/
He wasn't in his prime in the KHL. Amazing player though and underrated amongst the all-time greats.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:31 pm
by Per
Rumsfeld wrote:
He wasn't in his prime in the KHL. Amazing player though and underrated amongst the all-time greats.
You're right, prime was a bit too much said, but he has played four seasons in the NHL since returning, and just signed on for a fifth, so he was not completely over the hill. Guess that's what I meant. :look:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:35 pm
by Rumsfeld
Per wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:
He wasn't in his prime in the KHL. Amazing player though and underrated amongst the all-time greats.
You're right, prime was a bit too much said, but he has played four seasons in the NHL since returning, and just signed on for a fifth, so he was not completely over the hill. Guess that's what I meant. :look:
He lost a year and a half due to lockouts as well. Pretty crazy the numbers he's put up in a mostly low-scoring NHL.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:50 pm
by SKYO
The Sharks blowup seems inevitable...

Let's see what happens with Thornton, McLellan and Wilson.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... 41499.html

oh and this.
@PollakOnSharks

Thornton's latest jab at Sharks McLellan, not GM: "Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here."
http://www.mercurynews.com/sharks/ci_27 ... um=twitter

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:55 pm
by Rumsfeld
The Sharks made the playoffs 10 years in a row and averaged well over 100 points a season during that stretch. Hell of a run but it had to end sometime.

At least we won't have to see their bandwagon fans do that Shark-bite thing in the stands this year. So lame.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:08 pm
by ESQ
Per wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:
He wasn't in his prime in the KHL. Amazing player though and underrated amongst the all-time greats.
You're right, prime was a bit too much said, but he has played four seasons in the NHL since returning, and just signed on for a fifth, so he was not completely over the hill. Guess that's what I meant. :look:
He wasn't far off his prime - he was 2 years removed from a 123-point season, second best of his career, and his 3 seasons post-lockout he averaged close to 100 points a season. He could have put up as many as 200 point over those 3 seasons, which would put him in 2nd overall and the only player other than Gretzky to crack 2000 points. As it stands, he'll need at least 2 more seasons to make it into 2nd place overall.

Even more incredible that he put up those numbers post-80s, through the dead puck era, and across 25 hockey seasons.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:21 pm
by Cornuck
Always been a fan - even the mullet wasn't a factor. ;)

86 more points and I'll be happy.