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Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 8:30 am
by Tciso
2Fingers wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:28 pm
rats19 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:26 pm You figure out a way reef…..
I have none, I don't think anyone can figure out how to negotiate with him.
I have a list of things that don't seem to work. Some are directly related to trade. Some are just the entire relationship that affects trade.

Implement a digital tax, and then drop it.
Implement the same tax at 3 times the rate. Claim it was a government department that you don't control, and then reverse course and drop the new tax after finding out you do have the authority.
Put a whole pile or retributive tarrifs on items covered by CUSMCA, being the first side to violate CUSMA on this issue. Backtrack on these tarrifs.
Let the provinces ban alcohol (also covered by CUSMCA). Violates the spirit of CUSMCA.
Build a bridge, and then capitulate on revenue sharing, and not paying off the loan. And, lie about the agreement.
Don't send representatives to 2 important rounds of CUSMA negotiations.
Allowing 50,000 rising to 70,000 Chinese vehicles into Canada (about $$2-$3 billion per year), for a temporary drop on canola tarrifs (a $4billion export to china)
Actively ignore all signs of Chinese interference in Canada
Violate the "slave labour" laws in CUSMCA by not doing our due dilligence on Chinese imports.
Every time there is any progress, yell "Elbows Up", and reset the discussions. (Or let Ford run ads that you approve of)
Declare a "New World Order" and "we are on the menu" comments to the world.
Ignore any concerns over our Dairy supply management system/Dairy import restrictions.
Be totally flippant when asked about negotiations. Carry a calm demeanure of not giving a fuck if we ever get a deal.
Totally support your ally on Iran one day, and then say your ally violated international law the next day

All this before my 2nd cup of coffee.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 7:22 pm
by 5thhorseman
I am all for allowing 50,000 rising to 70,000 Chinese vehicles into Canada. It's a precursor to having them built here to replace the US auto industry which is dieing a slow death anyways due to the Innovators Dilemma.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 12:14 am
by Meds
Why would we want Chinese stuff? Why partner with corporations that are OWNED by the Chinese government?

Wouldn’t it be smarter to try and partner with American automotive giants and try to solve the dilemma?

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 6:24 am
by Topper
Folks I know who lived in Hong Kong just before the covid chaos, have great things to say about how advanced the Chinese EV's were then.

The concern is the spyware they carry.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 6:43 am
by 5thhorseman
Chinese EVs are already better than US or Japanese EVs.

Partnering with US auto manufacturers will have zero influence on their strategic direction. Not only have they not sufficiently invested in EV technology, they've abandoned the compact car segment to focus on pickups and SUVs, the more lucrative end of the market so they can report better profits to shareholders. Ruled by MBAs they will slowly become irrelevant.

If we can sort the spyware issue I don't care who owns the company who makes my car. Do you know who owns Ford? GM?

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 10:09 am
by Meds
You can’t go into business with the Chinese government. They have the final say. Why would we want to become any closer to being their economic fief than we already are?