The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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leaves with only two wins in their last eight games.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Strangelove wrote:.

Whatever Mr Fish, fact is one year ago you said:

"My point was that competing for the last playoff spot isn't a way to properly build."

Fact is your Leaves have a lot of "building" still needs be done.

Fact is making the playoffs this year would screw up the Leaves rebuild.

Fact is you are insane if you think the Leaves don't require more "building".

But hey, hopefully the Shanaplanners agree with you. :mex:
BigTuna [color=#FF0000]Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:11 pm[/color] wrote: With the greatest depth of rookies in years of any organization, the leaves do not need to be drowning in upcoming talent. They are set.
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The leaves do not require more building. The vast majority of their core is set. You can't say "Whatever", my comments were clearly in regards to the situation in 2014 which involved Luongo when the leaves had no core and a bottom 5 prospect pool.
To spin it as a negative in 2017 for them making the playoffs is ridiculous. All of their players look better now than anyone expected. And a lot of those players are teenagers or in their early 20's. This is great news.
You think I would have had the same opinion about adding Luongo if the leaves had 3 of the NHL's top 10 prospects and the #1 prospect pool out of 30 teams?
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2 wins in their last 8. LOL

leaves goaltending getting slagged quite a bit. Are you smelling the coffee yet, Tuna?

Your D and your goaltending is bush league.

Ahhhhhgain Tuna, nobody gives a flying fuck about your prospects beyond Matthews, Marner and I suppose Nylander. Enough already. Holy hell are you dense
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RoyalDude wrote:2 wins in their last 8. LOL

leaves goaltending getting slagged quite a bit. Are you smelling the coffee yet, Tuna?

Your D and your goaltending is bush league.

Ahhhhhgain Tuna, nobody gives a flying fuck about your prospects beyond Matthews, Marner and I suppose Nylander. Enough already. Holy hell are you dense
So what young teams are better positioned than the leaves right now?
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:2 wins in their last 8. LOL

leaves goaltending getting slagged quite a bit. Are you smelling the coffee yet, Tuna?

Your D and your goaltending is bush league.

Ahhhhhgain Tuna, nobody gives a flying fuck about your prospects beyond Matthews, Marner and I suppose Nylander. Enough already. Holy hell are you dense
So what young teams are better positioned than the leaves right now?
Stop comparing dicks, Tuna and worry about your own. You're inferiority complex is amazing
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BigTuna wrote:
So what young teams are better positioned than the leaves right now?
Seeing how the sabres just handed you guys your lunch...
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Uncle dans leg wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
So what young teams are better positioned than the leaves right now?
Seeing how the sabres just handed you guys your lunch...
Yeah and we beat them worse last time. You really think they're better? The media in Buffalo does not agree:

http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/17/mike- ... s-rebuild/
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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RoyalDude wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:2 wins in their last 8. LOL

leaves goaltending getting slagged quite a bit. Are you smelling the coffee yet, Tuna?

Your D and your goaltending is bush league.

Ahhhhhgain Tuna, nobody gives a flying fuck about your prospects beyond Matthews, Marner and I suppose Nylander. Enough already. Holy hell are you dense
So what young teams are better positioned than the leaves right now?
Stop comparing dicks, Tuna and worry about your own. You're inferiority complex is amazing
I understand. you cannot name a team in a better position.
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:2 wins in their last 8. LOL

leaves goaltending getting slagged quite a bit. Are you smelling the coffee yet, Tuna?

Your D and your goaltending is bush league.

Ahhhhhgain Tuna, nobody gives a flying fuck about your prospects beyond Matthews, Marner and I suppose Nylander. Enough already. Holy hell are you dense
So what young teams are better positioned than the leaves right now?
Stop comparing dicks, Tuna and worry about your own. You're inferiority complex is amazing
I understand. you cannot name a team in a better position.
Well, since I only recognize Matthews, Marner and Nylander (I suppose) as decent young hockey players it would actually be quite easy coming up with teams whom have a better young "legitimate" core than the leaves, starting with the team that spanked the leaves in their own barn tonight. Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, Nylander, Pu, etc
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BigTuna wrote: The leaves do not require more building.
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BigTuna wrote: The vast majority of their core is set. You can't say "Whatever", my comments were clearly in regards to the situation in 2014 which involved Luongo when the leaves had no core and a bottom 5 prospect pool.
If "the core is set"... then these guys aren't "prospects" anymore by definition

... and if we can't count any of the Leaves players currently with the big club

... then the Leaves once again have a "bottom 5 prospect pool"!

Leaves were among the top teams in terms of "prospect pools" when these guys were "prospects"

... but you're telling me they're not "prospects" any longer.

So, according to YOU, back to the basement with the Leaves as far as "prospect pools". :mex:
BigTuna wrote: To spin it as a negative in 2017 for them making the playoffs is ridiculous.
"My point was that competing for the last playoff spot isn't a way to properly build." - YOU

Mr Shanahan says the rebuilding is ongoing, get with the Shanaplan!

No Goalie of the Future and no defencemen who can actually play defence.

2 of your top 5 scoring forwards are UFAs in 1.3 years.

And as discussed, your "rookie" top scoring defenceman could become a Group 6 UFA this summer.

Leaves prospects are as dim as you are my friend and Spanky + the Rascals have hit the Rookie Wall.
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote: The leaves do not require more building.
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BigTuna wrote: The vast majority of their core is set. You can't say "Whatever", my comments were clearly in regards to the situation in 2014 which involved Luongo when the leaves had no core and a bottom 5 prospect pool.
If "the core is set"... then these guys aren't "prospects" anymore by definition

... and if we can't count any of the Leaves players currently with the big club

... then the Leaves once again have a "bottom 5 prospect pool"!

Leaves were among the top teams in terms of "prospect pools" when these guys were "prospects"

... but you're telling me they're not "prospects" any longer.

So, according to YOU, back to the basement with the Leaves as far as "prospect pools". :mex:
BigTuna wrote: To spin it as a negative in 2017 for them making the playoffs is ridiculous.
"My point was that competing for the last playoff spot isn't a way to properly build." - YOU

Mr Shanahan says the rebuilding is ongoing, get with the Shanaplan!

No Goalie of the Future and no defencemen who can actually play defence.

2 of your top 5 scoring forwards are UFAs in 1.3 years.

And as discussed, your "rookie" top scoring defenceman could become a Group 6 UFA this summer.

Leaves prospects are as dim as you are my friend and Spanky + the Rascals have hit the Rookie Wall.

Rookies are considered "Prospects" until they complete 1 full NHL season.

leaves are not bottom 5 in prospects at all. Even when the big 3 are gone from the list they'll be middle of the pack in rankings.

All the issues you mentioned are faced by other young teams yet you don't mention them. Evander Kane will be UFA after next season.

And LOL @ trying to spin losing Tyler Bozak as a negative. He is NOT one of the leaves top 5 forwards at all. Bozak's a bottom 6 forward on this leaves team. I guess you somehow think he's better than Kadri?
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote: The leaves do not require more building.
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BigTuna wrote: The vast majority of their core is set. You can't say "Whatever", my comments were clearly in regards to the situation in 2014 which involved Luongo when the leaves had no core and a bottom 5 prospect pool.
If "the core is set"... then these guys aren't "prospects" anymore by definition

... and if we can't count any of the Leaves players currently with the big club

... then the Leaves once again have a "bottom 5 prospect pool"!

Leaves were among the top teams in terms of "prospect pools" when these guys were "prospects"

... but you're telling me they're not "prospects" any longer.

So, according to YOU, back to the basement with the Leaves as far as "prospect pools". :mex:
BigTuna wrote: To spin it as a negative in 2017 for them making the playoffs is ridiculous.
"My point was that competing for the last playoff spot isn't a way to properly build." - YOU

Mr Shanahan says the rebuilding is ongoing, get with the Shanaplan!

No Goalie of the Future and no defencemen who can actually play defence.

2 of your top 5 scoring forwards are UFAs in 1.3 years.

And as discussed, your "rookie" top scoring defenceman could become a Group 6 UFA this summer.

Leaves prospects are as dim as you are my friend and Spanky + the Rascals have hit the Rookie Wall.

Rookies are considered "Prospects" until they complete 1 full NHL season.

leaves are not bottom 5 in prospects at all. Even when the big 3 are gone from the list they'll be middle of the pack in rankings.

All the issues you mentioned are faced by other young teams yet you don't mention them. Evander Kane will be UFA after next season.

And LOL @ trying to spin losing Tyler Bozak as a negative. He is NOT one of the leaves top 5 forwards at all. Bozak's a bottom 6 forward on this leaves team. I guess you somehow think he's better than Kadri?
After this year, you have a two year grace period. When his entry level is up. Mathews will be following his dream and no matter what it takes, will see to it he plays in a US city. "Bank on it"!
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micky107 wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote: The leaves do not require more building.
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BigTuna wrote: The vast majority of their core is set. You can't say "Whatever", my comments were clearly in regards to the situation in 2014 which involved Luongo when the leaves had no core and a bottom 5 prospect pool.
If "the core is set"... then these guys aren't "prospects" anymore by definition

... and if we can't count any of the Leaves players currently with the big club

... then the Leaves once again have a "bottom 5 prospect pool"!

Leaves were among the top teams in terms of "prospect pools" when these guys were "prospects"

... but you're telling me they're not "prospects" any longer.

So, according to YOU, back to the basement with the Leaves as far as "prospect pools". :mex:
BigTuna wrote: To spin it as a negative in 2017 for them making the playoffs is ridiculous.
"My point was that competing for the last playoff spot isn't a way to properly build." - YOU

Mr Shanahan says the rebuilding is ongoing, get with the Shanaplan!

No Goalie of the Future and no defencemen who can actually play defence.

2 of your top 5 scoring forwards are UFAs in 1.3 years.

And as discussed, your "rookie" top scoring defenceman could become a Group 6 UFA this summer.

Leaves prospects are as dim as you are my friend and Spanky + the Rascals have hit the Rookie Wall.

Rookies are considered "Prospects" until they complete 1 full NHL season.

leaves are not bottom 5 in prospects at all. Even when the big 3 are gone from the list they'll be middle of the pack in rankings.

All the issues you mentioned are faced by other young teams yet you don't mention them. Evander Kane will be UFA after next season.

And LOL @ trying to spin losing Tyler Bozak as a negative. He is NOT one of the leaves top 5 forwards at all. Bozak's a bottom 6 forward on this leaves team. I guess you somehow think he's better than Kadri?
After this year, you have a two year grace period. When his entry level is up. Mathews will be following his dream and no matter what it takes, will see to it he plays in a US city. "Bank on it"!
Matthews isn't UFA in 2 years.

So your claim is, he is so unhappy in Toronto he will demand a trade? LOL. Maybe he'll go home to Arizona. That makes sense. Too bad the arena deal fell through and the team is looking to move to Seattle.

You poor Canuck fans. If only Loui Eriksson would demand a trade (Of course no one will ever take him).
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BigTuna wrote:
micky107 wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote: The leaves do not require more building.
Image
BigTuna wrote: The vast majority of their core is set. You can't say "Whatever", my comments were clearly in regards to the situation in 2014 which involved Luongo when the leaves had no core and a bottom 5 prospect pool.
If "the core is set"... then these guys aren't "prospects" anymore by definition

... and if we can't count any of the Leaves players currently with the big club

... then the Leaves once again have a "bottom 5 prospect pool"!

Leaves were among the top teams in terms of "prospect pools" when these guys were "prospects"

... but you're telling me they're not "prospects" any longer.

So, according to YOU, back to the basement with the Leaves as far as "prospect pools". :mex:
BigTuna wrote: To spin it as a negative in 2017 for them making the playoffs is ridiculous.
"My point was that competing for the last playoff spot isn't a way to properly build." - YOU

Mr Shanahan says the rebuilding is ongoing, get with the Shanaplan!

No Goalie of the Future and no defencemen who can actually play defence.

2 of your top 5 scoring forwards are UFAs in 1.3 years.

And as discussed, your "rookie" top scoring defenceman could become a Group 6 UFA this summer.

Leaves prospects are as dim as you are my friend and Spanky + the Rascals have hit the Rookie Wall.

Rookies are considered "Prospects" until they complete 1 full NHL season.

leaves are not bottom 5 in prospects at all. Even when the big 3 are gone from the list they'll be middle of the pack in rankings.

All the issues you mentioned are faced by other young teams yet you don't mention them. Evander Kane will be UFA after next season.

And LOL @ trying to spin losing Tyler Bozak as a negative. He is NOT one of the leaves top 5 forwards at all. Bozak's a bottom 6 forward on this leaves team. I guess you somehow think he's better than Kadri?
After this year, you have a two year grace period. When his entry level is up. Mathews will be following his dream and no matter what it takes, will see to it he plays in a US city. "Bank on it"!
Matthews isn't UFA in 2 years. He'll be UFA in 2023.

So your claim is, he is so unhappy in Toronto he will demand a trade? LOL. Maybe he'll go home to Arizona. That makes sense. Too bad the arena deal fell through and the team is looking to move to Seattle.

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You poor Canuck fans. If only Loui Eriksson would demand a trade (Of course no one will ever take him
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McDavids new contract, I year previous to Matthews new contract will set the bar "he'll just say, whatever they are paying McDavid, pay me" LOL, that's going to be fun to watch. But the preview to all that will be first Marners and Nylanders contract. Oh you gotta love the Salary Cap. Evens it all out. All that money tied up forever in one small basket eh Tuna? Gonna be fun watching the player exodus in Toronto due to the cap restraints that the leaves are about to be slammed with.
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