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theman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:44 am

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:38 am

theman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:07 am Silovs sent back to the AHL, guess Demko is ready to get hurt again.

We're a cynical bunch these days, aren't we? I can't imagine the players are much happier.

Is it "54 years of misery and counting" now?

The Cup Will Win Itself. Fuck me, coaching is easy.

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:23 am J Rutherford is anything but a yes man. Alvin? Sure but Rutherford isn't a gobbler

We’ll see

What they do from now and until next season will be telling with what we got with this regime, whether they are just like the rest of them under this shit show ownership, same old same old bullshit, or they could actually bring us home the cup. I can’t tell at this point, a bit early yet.

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:01 am ...I have no doubt we will see 60 years without a cup.

The fact pattern fits your theory, and the conclusion follows logically.

As great as it is to have rational Dude back, it's discouraging to contemplate how futile this franchise will remain.

Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:05 pm

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:01 am ...I have no doubt we will see 60 years without a cup.

The fact pattern fits your theory, and the conclusion follows logically.

As great as it is to have rational Dude back, it's discouraging to contemplate how futile this franchise will remain.

Its super frustrating, RG. I’m pretty much convinced there is just one thing getting in the way of the Canucks winning the cup - the Aqualini’s. Had Gaglardi bought the team, we are talking a different story, IMO.

What this regime needs to assess is, what is the captain thinking?

Make the moves or non-moves that will make him want to stay and sign the biggest contract in Canucks’ history.

Every other Canuck is secondary and expendable.

Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:54 am The Cup Will Win Itself. Fuck me, coaching is easy.

Love this place. I guffaw daily without having to pay a dealer for cackle weed like some other poster.

Dealers are so 1989

We shop locally and responsibly

Carl Yagro wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:31 pm What this regime needs to assess is, what is the captain thinking?

Make the moves or non-moves that will make him want to stay and sign the biggest contract in Canucks’ history.

Every other Canuck is secondary and expendable.

This.... He's a top 3, at worst a top 5 player in the game. He's also a good human. I'm sure they're tapped into what his thoughts are. I'd need to know he will re up here long term in 2027. I don't like the thought of gassing a coach that's helped take him to the next level unless Jon Cooper or Craig Berube is suddenly available. They can't have him getting abused like that ever again. PLD needs a heavy slew foot and then a beating next game against that team. Protect your own.

The whole league is talking about it so it isn't just the sweaty neckbeards in the media. Everyone is weighing in. I think management should have been more out in front of this. I'm not going to comment on what who would have done what in previous Canuck administrations other than to say Quinn or Burke would have dealt with this. Milford too. He made a horrendous and I repeat horrendous trade for a Tiger Clown in 1980. But he got two partying kids- the nerve of those guys, to act like 20 year olds at the time.... out of town regardless if it was a shitty trade.

This feels different. Im not sure who's wrong but from my lens......Nobody is right. Both players, manager, coach, and media scum. Media is weird nowadays. They are mostly pod nerds and they can fling shitballs and scurry to a hole. Snap on a string tie or have the most irritating over the top laugh ever. Matt Sekeres is well over 3 bills now. But what about the fella that accosted Peter on the way to his car a couple years ago? Bure wanted out of here. Trevor wasn't crushed to go and neither was Bo. I' would not be shocked if it was that wasn't Dude's buddy Taj that terrorized Peter.

It could be the most toxic media/ fan base in the game

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:52 pm

Dealers are so 1989

We shop locally and responsibly

Just because the government took over the business and "legalized" it, you think there are no more dealers?

It's 2025 and your dealer is the Gub-ment.

Loving a good Blob rant...

Agree.

Don't get me started on this toxic media... but since you have, imma sleep on it and decide whether I want to make a flamethrower post at those fuckin' weasels tomorrow morning.

"...fling shitballs and scurry to a hole."

Not a more apt description than this.

From: https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/n ... goal-games

A lot of this improvement has to do with the return to the lineup of J.T. Miller.

His overall play remains uneven, but the simple reality is he is better than the guys he was replacing.

The Canucks’ expected goals rate improves by 21 percentage points when Miller is on the ice compared to when he’s not, according to HockeyViz.com.

The Canucks, to no shock, are well above average offensively with Miller on the ice compared to being below-average when he’s off.

But, but, but... he's an asshole and the team is better without him.

Um, no.

...

Something something... Hronek as a regular is much better than Juulsen...

Well, no shit.

...

If you want to understand how badly things were going for the Canucks for much of December, just look at Elias Pettersson’s expected goals numbers.

With both Miller and Hronek out of the lineup, the Canucks were giving up about 0.6 expected goals per 60 minutes of five-on-five ice time with Pettersson on the ice.

It’s not just that he was struggling, the team as a whole was.

The Canucks need Pettersson back, quite simply put. And then obviously, they need Pettersson to get back to being Prime Pettersson, the guy who creates opportunities for his linemates and bag his own.

Well yeah, we've been saying this since after the 2024 ASG, FFS... it wasn't just bad for the team in December.

...

Hughes’ relative shot-attempts for percentage is 16.7, that is the percentage point difference between the Canucks’ shot-attempts percentage when Hughes is on the ice and when he’s off.

The Canucks are 1/6th better when he’s on the ice, compared to when he’s off.

That’s a staggering difference. Indeed it’s the best in the NHL.

In other words, better play when Hughes isn’t on the ice sure would help a lot.

Well, no shit.

Don't quote me unless you want to piss off Lever.

Winkie

It is amazing that no one listens to people on this GDHMB.

Carl Yagro wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:36 pm

Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:54 am The Cup Will Win Itself. Fuck me, coaching is easy.

Love this place. I guffaw daily without having to pay a dealer for cackle weed like some other poster.

Thanks Carl. It's hard to take this place/team too seriously. I mostly just read stuff, and spit out whatever bs floasts to the top of my brain. Unless there's capology and math involved. Then I get serious.

Same author from pre-Christmas: https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/n ... aper-tiger

At least this media member will show data to make points instead of driving personal agenda by making sheep bleat for them.

Let’s be clear here: the idea that Elias Pettersson started playing better while Miller was out of the lineup is a total fallacy.

Pettersson’s game had greatly improved even before Miller left the lineup. He had scored four goals in the five games before Miller went on leave Nov. 19, for instance.

Now, against all odds, Pettersson kept picking up points with Miller out, even as the Canucks’ offence cratered.

But a look under the hood shows that with Pettersson on the ice, the Canucks’ quality of chances fell by half.

And that tracks with the overall trend described above. The Canucks were remarkable good at finishing what chances they created.

Chef's assertions... WRONG.

Here’s why Miller’s return, in the end, could mean everything, more than a return for Hronek or the Canucks trading for a new defenceman: no Canuck has a higher five-on-five expected-goals rate than Miller.

At 2.74 expected goals per 60 minutes of five-on-five time, Miller is a hair above Quinn Hughes.

Miller has driven the offence when he is on the ice this season like none other. Even without considering how well Pettersson has been playing, or not, that’s a massive figure and one you simply can’t replace.

The Canucks have also done very well defensively with Miller on the ice, 2.18 expected goals against per 60 minutes of five-on-five time, slightly above Pettersson and Hughes’ 2.11.

Oh ho! Both sides, 200ft game. Just like last season when their line matched up against the other team's best and consistently got the better of them... kind of how the Sedins used to but without owning the puck as much.

100+ points, toughest defensive matchups, made linemate into 40 goal scorer, 57% FO, run PP, start on PK by taking draws, $8M/yr... fuck you want?

Walk loudly and carry a big straw.

Carl Yagro wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:03 am Same author from pre-Christmas: https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/n ... aper-tiger

At least this media member will show data to make points instead of driving personal agenda by making sheep bleat for them.

Let’s be clear here: the idea that Elias Pettersson started playing better while Miller was out of the lineup is a total fallacy.

Pettersson’s game had greatly improved even before Miller left the lineup. He had scored four goals in the five games before Miller went on leave Nov. 19, for instance.

Now, against all odds, Pettersson kept picking up points with Miller out, even as the Canucks’ offence cratered.

But a look under the hood shows that with Pettersson on the ice, the Canucks’ quality of chances fell by half.

And that tracks with the overall trend described above. The Canucks were remarkable good at finishing what chances they created.

Chef's assertions... WRONG.

Here’s why Miller’s return, in the end, could mean everything, more than a return for Hronek or the Canucks trading for a new defenceman: no Canuck has a higher five-on-five expected-goals rate than Miller.

At 2.74 expected goals per 60 minutes of five-on-five time, Miller is a hair above Quinn Hughes.

Miller has driven the offence when he is on the ice this season like none other. Even without considering how well Pettersson has been playing, or not, that’s a massive figure and one you simply can’t replace.

The Canucks have also done very well defensively with Miller on the ice, 2.18 expected goals against per 60 minutes of five-on-five time, slightly above Pettersson and Hughes’ 2.11.

Oh ho! Both sides, 200ft game. Just like last season when their line matched up against the other team's best and consistently got the better of them... kind of how the Sedins used to but without owning the puck as much.

100+ points, toughest defensive matchups, made linemate into 40 goal scorer, 57% FO, run PP, start on PK by taking draws, $8M/yr... fuck you want?

Walk loudly and carry a big straw.