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Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:49 pm
by Cornuck
Lancer wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:38 pm Being able to grab those Boesers and Demkos at the back end of the first round to the middle of the 2nd is key to building contending teams. You can still find gems in the later rounds, but getting those higher-percentage picks and hitting on them is crucial.
That is critical for sure.

Another thing I'd like to see, is stats on is the rising value of later-round picks. My guess is that the talent pool overall rises a little each year due to more kids getting better training. So as the overall talent grows, so does the value of later picks.

So I took a look....

Quick random look shows the average number of games played per player by round

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	2000	2010	DIFF
ROUND 1	464	604	140
ROUND 2	218	270	52
ROUND 3	84	105	21
ROUND 4	51	64	13
ROUND 5	86	146	60
ROUND 6	54	70	16
Here's a look at the number of games (average) by players selected 15-30 (slowly trending up), and the number of players who played under 100 games (random)
(Keep in mind, there are still some active players from the later drafts)

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	avg 	 <100
2001	311	5
2002	322	7
2003	724	1
2004	384	4
2005	358	7
2006	364	10
2007	373	7
2008	410	6
2009	377	4
2010	509	3
2011	403	6
2012	542	4
2013	383	5
2014	434	3

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:52 pm
by Cornuck
donlever wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:45 pm
theman wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:35 pm 3 second round picks coming back is crazy. Suddenly feeling jealous.
All of them in the 2026 draft as well.
Holy shit!
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Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:55 pm
by donlever
Like I said.

People guffawed when Conroy was hired.

Dude is bringing it.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:59 pm
by Nuckertuzzi
Didn't even do Kadri and others yet. Nice lookin' draft board could/should look even better after Friday.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:21 pm
by donlever
I mean he's set for the next 2 years which gives him more ammo when dealing the likes of Kadri and Coleman because he is asking for down the road equity from GM's who are looking for win now capital.

Conroy could literally set the Flames up for a decade.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:26 pm
by Meds
donlever wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:21 pm Conroy could literally set the Flames up for a decade.
So long as he doesn’t Nuck it up, Flames could be looking gooood in 5 years.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:29 pm
by Carl Yagro
GMs of other teams are guffawing when they deal with our front office from the late Cretaceous period and find out they not only get to take our shit, but they're getting paid to take our shit.

We need some young blood. Is Rob Lowe available?

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:36 pm
by donlever
...and the rich get richer.

https://x.com/i/status/2029381925954027880

Mike Grier.

Craig Conroy.

Bill Guerin.

Pat Verbeek.

Jim Rutherford.

.....it's Sesame Street.

One of these things is not like the other.

One of these things just doesn't belong....

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:42 pm
by Carl Yagro
I'm thinking some of the players from 2011 could do better in the Canucks' front office and behind the bench...

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:43 pm
by 5thhorseman
Cornuck wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:49 pm Corn's tables
There are a fixed number of games available so where are all the extra games coming from?

Is it older players that are leaving the game earlier?

Is it undrafted players that are not making it to the bigs anymore?

With a fixed number of games an uptrend has to be counterbalanced by a downtrend elsewhere.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:46 pm
by Nuckertuzzi
Every year, usually around this time, you always see some trades that make you go wow, how the F did that team pull off that haul for that guy?!? Then I wonder why the F can’t we ever do something like that. I’ve been wondering it forever and to this day still can’t point to one trade that falls into that category (more often the opposite).

The Hughes, Sherwood, Myers trades this year were fine. But to me they at best met the baseline of a return one could realistically expect. Nothing more, nothing eye popping that makes other people jealous. Like what Conroy just pulled off with a 32 y.o. player.

There’s still a couple more days for something like that to happen but who are we kidding with these guys. They took the first offer for Hughes and didn’t even try to squeeze an extra pick. Something I’m convinced could’ve been had. Guerin’s probably still over the moon for getting Quinn Fucking Hughes without having to give up more than they likely would’ve.

Give Pinky & The Brain the deadline and the remainder of the season. Then I wouldn’t mind giving RJ a chance to be our Conroy.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:00 pm
by donlever
Linden for Bert, McCabe and what became Ruutu was pretty good for one.

But yes....your point is well made.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:10 pm
by BCExpat
donlever wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:55 pm Like I said.

People guffawed when Conroy was hired.

Dude is bringing it.
Pretty decent haul for the Flames from Utah. The Flames are still missing star power on the forward lines. Hopefully that will come when they draft 1st or 2nd overall this season and next. By 2030 they should have a pretty decent team.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:13 pm
by Nuckertuzzi
Wow, how long do we have to go back. But that's not a bad one Donny. A good deal mostly because of the trade tree that sprung out from it to last a couple decades.

That's what a good trade can do for ya. The Weegar trade started with a good 6OA selection (which we gifted them while we end up with nothing with our 5OA), now turns into an extra 1st rounder last year, three 2nd rounders this year, a prospect and another player they can and probably will flip next year for another branch of the tree.

Re: 2026 Pre-TDL Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:16 pm
by BCExpat
donlever wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:36 pm ...and the rich get richer.

https://x.com/i/status/2029381925954027880

Mike Grier.

Craig Conroy.

Bill Guerin.

Pat Verbeek.

Jim Rutherford.

.....it's Sesame Street.

One of these things is not like the other.

One of these things just doesn't belong....
This is just glorious for all of us Oiler haters! They are very close to not making the playoffs this season, so that pick could be pretty good.

Question - if the Oilers miss the playoffs and they have no 1st round pick, I assume they are not eligible for the draft lottery - correct? So SJS who own the Oilers unprotected 1st round pick, could win the draft lottery??