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I was dead against vaccine mandates and saw the political interference in it.

I watch nearly all of Dr. Henry's briefings, I rarely saw any of the reporting of her briefings. I also maintained my own data base from the government dashboard and weekly stats updates to chart trends.

For the most part, Dr. Henry, looking after the medical side, and Adrian Dix, looking after the procurement side did admirable jobs. Dr. Henry was very good at passing along trends they were beginning to see in the data and how it may effect coming decisions. There was usually a 3 day window from her first words to action.

Dr Henry explained how the convention centre was set up as a care hospital in case of emergency (the horrors of Italy and New York were fresh in mind and understanding of the virus was in it's infancy), not to house covid patients, but rather to move regular hospital patients to in order to free up access to more advanced hospital care.

Dr Henry went through the genome work that early on identified three strains the virus had already developed, a Chinese, a western US strain and a European strain. It was the Euro strain hitting eastern Canada due to Quebec's early Spring Break holiday. It was the US strain hitting BC with very minor amounts of the Chinese strain and hence her urgency for controlling cross border traffic.

I'm not sure how much of that was ever distributed in the news media. It was clear from Dr Henry's briefings to anyone with rudimentary high school biology what was going on.

It was very clear that certain demographics had a higher risk than others with age being the primary factor and repertory health a close second.

What was despicable to me was the actions of some members of the press to act as proxies for the alarmists. The teachers fed being the primary alarmist. This fueled public opinion towards being alarmist and demanding political action/restriction/mandates away from medical advice. This was Dr Henry's downfall in not standing up to political pressure.

Every little old lady on Facebook was forming a mask making sewing circle and crying that everyone mask up.

You knew there was political interests at play if Farnsworth or Horgan was involved in the press briefings.

The Federal response was nothing short of corrupt. First thing Trudeau asked Parliament for was free run on all economic issues for 18 months. Fortunately even Jaguarmeat realized that was a bad idea. This was followed by Trudeau coming out of Rideau Cottage every morning to give away more millions of dollars the government didn't have. I asked at the time, if you give away something to everyone, have you given anyone any thing?

Tam was dreadful. It was very apparent that she and Dr Henry, who had worked together on H1N1, hated one another. The optics of having a Chinese immigrant with English as a second language passing judgement on a Chinese sourced virus was a flat out PR mistake. Some may say it is racist, but she should not have been put in that very public spokesperson role.

The ridiculousness of vax passports to enter a restaurant where there was table service but not for a restaurant that offered counter service. I wrote my MLA to ask about two coffee shops in town across the street from one another, both favourite lunch spots of the MLA, what the risk assessment was of the two operations. One offering table service were patrons are not moving around requiring a vax passport, the other offering counter service were patrons are always moving around not requiring a vax passport. He couldn't answer.

Mask mandates were from public pressure fueled by the media. Anyone who has done first aid or safety response programs knows that PPE is the last ditch measure.

While some businesses in BC were shuttered because close personal conduct could not be avoided, most businesses could stay open by writing a very basic emergency response plan that showed you'd at least put some thought into what you'd do if covid hit your workplace. I think it took me 1/2 hour to write ours.

We can go on for hours debating Covid going back to the demise of the PREDICT program in Wuhan just months before the first chatter of an air borne virus that spreads amongst humans to the outgoing Obama transition team playing a mock pandemic arriving on the East Coast which turned out to be eerily similar to the Covid19 pandemic, but at the end of the day the point stands that whatever the issue there will be resistence...

But onto brighter news, it seems that Carney is not the only one who advised Trudeau ...

https://x.com/2muchfun4me/status/1900063802093429062

It also speaks to Mëds desire for politicians of all stripes to start working together on behalf of the people....

Oh, and did I mention this?

https://x.com/merry123459/status/189926 ... 92/photo/1

Looks like Carney will announce his cabinet tomorrow and it will be about half the size of the Trudeau cabinet which should make Conservatives happy...

Curious if he will bring on star candidates from the private sector to fill cabinet positions...

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:12 am

Mëds wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:26 pm

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:41 pm Parliamentary Budget Officer reports the production cap on oil and gas that the Liberals have proposed will create;

54,000+ job losses

$21B loss in GDP

But I’m sure with Carney’s resume this is the best course of action for Canadian economic recovery and stability.

Right Rik?

You forgot to share the rest of the findings...

Among the PBO’s findings were that an oil and gas emissions cap could reduce the country’s GDP by $20 billion, and result in more than 40,000 jobs lost. But a cost-benefit analysis could clarify that economic picture. For example, Navius Research estimates that clean energy’s contribution to GDP could leap more than $25 billion and support 639,000 jobs by 2030 — offsetting the loss in the fossil fuel sector.

And who are these clean energy contributors?

And who are these clean energy contributors?

https://www.naviusresearch.com/publicat ... nomy-2021/

Texas is an example of walking and chewing gum at the same time....

Texas Green Energy Revolution: A Shift Towards Renewable Energy
On June 12, 2024, Governor Greg Abbott of Texas announced an unprecedented plan to establish Texas as a national leader in renewable energy, a move that has taken both energy industry analysts and environmental advocates by surprise. This ambitious proposal, dubbed the “Texas Green Energy Revolution,” involves a substantial investment of $10 billion over the next six years. The primary objective is to ensure that 50% of the state’s energy consumption comes from renewable sources by the year 2030.

And when we talk about jobs of the future:

The Texas Green Energy Revolution is expected to generate substantial economic benefits, including the creation of tens of thousands of jobs across various sectors such as construction, manufacturing, and technology. This job creation is particularly targeted at rural communities where many of the new renewable energy projects will be located. Local leaders have expressed their support, emphasizing the economic advantages that these projects could bring, including increased tax revenue and long-term employment opportunities.

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:55 am Oh, and did I mention this?

https://x.com/merry123459/status/189926 ... 92/photo/1

Lol. 4 year degree took 11 years to finish. No mention that 4 of those years were while he was a sitting MP. Obviously, he was a part time student. But, I do appreciate the smear.

Also, what qualifies as a real estate speculator instead of an investor?? Or is this just another smear?

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:12 am

You forgot to share the rest of the findings...

Among the PBO’s findings were that an oil and gas emissions cap could reduce the country’s GDP by $20 billion, and result in more than 40,000 jobs lost. But a cost-benefit analysis could clarify that economic picture. For example, Navius Research estimates that clean energy’s contribution to GDP could leap more than $25 billion and support 639,000 jobs by 2030 — offsetting the loss in the fossil fuel sector.

What exactly does the opinion of Navius Research have to do with the PBO? Did the PBO pay Navius for this research, and does the PBO support this conclusion? Or, is this an atteempt to mislead and imply the PBO made these statements?

Rik, sorry if this seems like an attack. I just want to know what the PBO said about Green Energy, not a 3rd party. I find way too many stories throw data from several sources that are not related to attempt to make or change the narrative of a story. This sounds like one of those.

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:20 am

And who are these clean energy contributors?

https://www.naviusresearch.com/publicat ... nomy-2021/

Texas is an example of walking and chewing gum at the same time....

Texas Green Energy Revolution: A Shift Towards Renewable Energy
On June 12, 2024, Governor Greg Abbott of Texas announced an unprecedented plan to establish Texas as a national leader in renewable energy, a move that has taken both energy industry analysts and environmental advocates by surprise. This ambitious proposal, dubbed the “Texas Green Energy Revolution,” involves a substantial investment of $10 billion over the next six years. The primary objective is to ensure that 50% of the state’s energy consumption comes from renewable sources by the year 2030.

And when we talk about jobs of the future:

The Texas Green Energy Revolution is expected to generate substantial economic benefits, including the creation of tens of thousands of jobs across various sectors such as construction, manufacturing, and technology. This job creation is particularly targeted at rural communities where many of the new renewable energy projects will be located. Local leaders have expressed their support, emphasizing the economic advantages that these projects could bring, including increased tax revenue and long-term employment opportunities.

That's great. But what are the sources of the renewable energy? Wind? Laughable, the carbon footprint of wind turbines large enough to generate any meaningful amount of energy is insanely poor. Solar? Conceivably good, but probably not viable in way too many areas. Nuclear? Absolutely, it is probably the cleanest source of energy we have.

It's great to talk about investment, but what are we hoping to get back?

You've used the line "walk and chewing gum at the same time" more than once. I agree. However carbon taxes and trashing projects with rejection or simply bogging them down with regulatory requirements sounds more like just chewing gum while standing still.

Invest in what we currently have RIGHT NOW, take the returns of that investment and put them into developing the renewable sources.

Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:27 am

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:55 am Oh, and did I mention this?

https://x.com/merry123459/status/189926 ... 92/photo/1

Lol. 4 year degree took 11 years to finish. No mention that 4 of those years were while he was a sitting MP. Obviously, he was a part time student. But, I do appreciate the smear.

Also, what qualifies as a real estate speculator instead of an investor?? Or is this just another smear?

Ideally you have a guy like PP, more regular Joe than Ivy League elite, at the helm of a government that is there to REPRESENT and SERVE the populace (which is vastly comprised of regular Joe's)......with the understanding that the people surrounding him are guys with Carney's education and experience.

Just using current examples btw.

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:18 am

Tciso wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:19 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:17 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:23 am

rikster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:32 am You thought the government over reached during Covid...well the majority of Canadians would tell you to wake up...

I don’t think the majority would actually.

Rikster not only speaks for "world leaders and the business (sic) communities"

... he also speaks for "the majority of Canadians".

I could probably name a hundred acquaintances that were anti Vax, or against the ridiculous punishment inflicted on the untaxed, or those who declined to show their medical status. It's a pretty big portion of the population.

And, before you ask, I was 100% against making the vaccine mandatory. I only got the vaccine to keep my wife quiet. But, I boycotted any place requiring you show your status.

I can't think of anyone in my social circle who had a problem with the vaccines or the mandates...

And I think the fact that a minority of Canadians were opposed to the vaccine mandate just speaks to the 85/15 rule....No matter what the issue some 15% of the population will be opposed....

Rikky, do you hang with a bunch of little old ladies?

2nd line...



(Angus Reid poll from last week)

85/15 rule does not apply here...

The last act of a dying government that has racked up the highest debt in Canadian history was to cap NSF cheque fees charged by banks.

You can't make this shit up.

LOL

Rikky, do you hang with a bunch of little old ladies?

2nd line...

I wish, my advice to my boys when looking for a future wife was that lust comes and goes but money appreciates and I bet those little old ladies have money and lots of it...

Not sure what the point is of the graph you posted is?

What was interesting about vaccinations at the start of the pandemic is we didn't require staff to be vaccinated to work...

Fortunately we had just 1 staff member who refused to get the shot....but what his refusal did was cause turmoil and anger amongst the rest of the staff...

This polling at the 2 year anniversary of the pandemic has some interesting data;

https://angusreid.org/covid-19-in-canada/

Mëds wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:30 pm

Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:27 am

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:55 am Oh, and did I mention this?

https://x.com/merry123459/status/189926 ... 92/photo/1

Lol. 4 year degree took 11 years to finish. No mention that 4 of those years were while he was a sitting MP. Obviously, he was a part time student. But, I do appreciate the smear.

Also, what qualifies as a real estate speculator instead of an investor?? Or is this just another smear?

Ideally you have a guy like PP, more regular Joe than Ivy League elite, at the helm of a government that is there to REPRESENT and SERVE the populace (which is vastly comprised of regular Joe's)......with the understanding that the people surrounding him are guys with Carney's education and experience.

Just using current examples btw.

Don't think that would work for a number of reasons...

The guy at the top needs to be the professor who has played the game, not some raw rookie with no life experiences to draw upon....

Can't remember if I have shared this:

https://x.com/merry123459/status/189926 ... 92/photo/1

btw, got another reminder from the Conservative Party to order my lawn sign...its almost daily the amount of solicitation

rikster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:44 pm Not sure what the point is of the graph you posted is?

Well you were involved in a conversation involving the opinion of Canadians on how the Lib government handled Covid.

So I supplied an Angus Reid poll from last week on the opinion of Canadians on how the Lib government handled Covid.



BTW, the string I quoted began with this post of yours to Mëds:

rikster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:32 am You thought the government over reached during Covid...well the majority of Canadians would tell you to wake up...

Not sure why you think the majority of Canadians agree with you.

Not sure of the relevance of your poll from 4 years ago.

Note yours truly in that string:

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:17 pm Rikster not only speaks for "world leaders and the business communities"

... he also speaks for "the majority of Canadians".

Take carotene...

I don’t believe my stance of us having one of the better government responses to COVID and still wasn’t great is incongruous.

I mean Captain Photoshoot used it to consolidate power and sat on his hands while selling off our quality of living.