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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:40 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Ya I'm with you buds. Its a pretty intriguing part of being a fan of a rebuilding team. Its always good to follow who you wanted to see if you were right.
I'm pretty sure PLD was going to be our pick as he wasnt slated to go 3rd but unfortunately for us the blow jobbers bumped him up...rightly so. Was it poolparty who went next i think? Its interesting to see him sputter...i wonder what indicators might be there to avoid drafting prospects who cant see the ice like that in the future. Virtanen is in that same category.
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:01 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Strangelove wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:11 pm
Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:28 pm
So last year was all about dobson or whats-his-name....
The year before was all about glass or whats-his-name...
The year before that was all about someone else we didnt take.
Verdict- we collectively have no fucking clue what Benning will do and thats a good thing. These past 3 years he picked the least predicted player in these draft threads and Bennings off the map picks have turned out to be diamonds.
Paddy and I called Jimbro taking Pettersson!
Not that we'll likely ever be making any further predictions.
June 7, 2017
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:19 pm
by Diehard1
Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:40 pm
Ya I'm with you buds. Its a pretty intriguing part of being a fan of a rebuilding team. Its always good to follow who you wanted to see if you were right.
I'm pretty sure PLD was going to be our pick as he wasnt slated to go 3rd but unfortunately for us the blow jobbers bumped him up...rightly so. Was it poolparty who went next i think? Its interesting to see him sputter...i wonder what indicators might be there to avoid drafting prospects who cant see the ice like that in the future. Virtanen is in that same category.
In the Virtanen draft I wanted Dal Colle to drop to us - oops. Virtanen is a decent player, likely no more than a 3rd liner on a contender and that’s not great for 6th overall, but it’s better than striking out completely. In hindsight it’s turned out to be a pretty shitty draft, other than Draisaitl at 3rd overall and Point in the 3rd round.
I think Brackett and/or Jimbo seem to be pretty good at picking guys with good hockey sense - Gillis’ regime was terrible at it - and that’s the biggest thing for me in drafting players. Virtanen is an exception but in general they’ve picked smart hockey players. It’s the reason I think Juolevi could still be a player as his hockey sense is very good, he just needs to stay healthy long enough to show it.
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:20 am
by Mickey107
Cam Robinson’s 2019 NHL Draft Rankings – April, 18, 2019
It's a huge site but it works not too bad. The most comprehensive one I've seen this year yet;
https://dobberprospects.com/cam-robinso ... pril-2019/
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:13 am
by Lancer
Krebs or Boldy if they are available. Soderstrom if they're not; hopefully not. Soderstrom screams a ceiling of max 4D Hamhuis without the physicality. I know the blueline is a mess, but a top-6 W or C is more valuable than a 4D. We got Woo in the 2nd round and we have Juolevi coming in, so why not grab a Dman in the 2nd? Krebs is a C but no doubt can move to W if needed, or be a trade piece for a #1-2 D if the situation was right. Maybe he makes one of the top 4 core expendable?
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:23 am
by Carlyee
Lancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:13 am
Krebs or Boldy if they are available. Soderstrom if they're not; hopefully not. Soderstrom screams a ceiling of max 4D Hamhuis without the physicality. I know the blueline is a mess, but a top-6 W or C is more valuable than a 4D. We got Woo in the 2nd round and we have Juolevi coming in, so why not grab a Dman in the 2nd? Krebs is a C but no doubt can move to W if needed, or be a trade piece for a #1-2 D if the situation was right. Maybe he makes one of the top 4 core expendable?
Woo could be Poliout 2.0 why is everyone pencilling in a guy with zero pedigree as the savior on defense.
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:47 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Carlyee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:23 am
Lancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:13 am
Krebs or Boldy if they are available. Soderstrom if they're not; hopefully not. Soderstrom screams a ceiling of max 4D Hamhuis without the physicality. I know the blueline is a mess, but a top-6 W or C is more valuable than a 4D. We got Woo in the 2nd round and we have Juolevi coming in, so why not grab a Dman in the 2nd? Krebs is a C but no doubt can move to W if needed, or be a trade piece for a #1-2 D if the situation was right. Maybe he makes one of the top 4 core expendable?
Woo could be Poliout 2.0 why is everyone pencilling in a guy with zero pedigree as the savior on defense.
He very well could be. That’s why they need more prospects at every position. These kids will fail 7/10 times. So if you have ten good prospects, you likely have have three decent NHL players down the road. It’s funny the same guys holding a torch for Tryamkin to return are also putting Woo and Juolevi in a future top 4 defence.
It’s like drafting for need, it’s asinine. ‘Oh we have a hole on defence right now, let’s draft Olaf. We have two wingers in the pipeline drafted in the first round so we don’t need wingers.’ That kind of stupid thinking ends up biting you in the ass. There’s STILL a massive hole on the wing three years later. And on D.
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:55 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:28 pm
So last year was all about dobson or whats-his-name....
The year before was all about glass or whats-his-name...
The year before that was all about someone else we didnt take.
Verdict- we collectively have no fucking clue what Benning will do and thats a good thing. These past 3 years he picked the least predicted player in these draft threads and Bennings off the map picks have turned out to be diamonds.
I like Hughes but I would have had no problem with Elmer choosing Noah Dobson. He’s on one the best players in the Q.
Glass injured his knee and missed half the year. I still think he’s a good pick but Pettersson clearly was the correct pick. I wasn’t a fan initially due to his frail stature but clearly he is awesome and proved myself and others wrong. Funny, the guy patting himself on the back said he would be joining the dark side if Elmer picked Petey.
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:30 am
by Chef Boi RD
Carlyee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:23 am
Lancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:13 am
Krebs or Boldy if they are available. Soderstrom if they're not; hopefully not. Soderstrom screams a ceiling of max 4D Hamhuis without the physicality. I know the blueline is a mess, but a top-6 W or C is more valuable than a 4D. We got Woo in the 2nd round and we have Juolevi coming in, so why not grab a Dman in the 2nd? Krebs is a C but no doubt can move to W if needed, or be a trade piece for a #1-2 D if the situation was right. Maybe he makes one of the top 4 core expendable?
Woo could be Poliout 2.0 why is everyone pencilling in a guy with zero pedigree as the savior on defense.
Savior?
Yeah k
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:36 am
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:47 am
Carlyee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:23 am
Lancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:13 am
Krebs or Boldy if they are available. Soderstrom if they're not; hopefully not. Soderstrom screams a ceiling of max 4D Hamhuis without the physicality. I know the blueline is a mess, but a top-6 W or C is more valuable than a 4D. We got Woo in the 2nd round and we have Juolevi coming in, so why not grab a Dman in the 2nd? Krebs is a C but no doubt can move to W if needed, or be a trade piece for a #1-2 D if the situation was right. Maybe he makes one of the top 4 core expendable?
Woo could be Poliout 2.0 why is everyone pencilling in a guy with zero pedigree as the savior on defense.
He very well could be. That’s why they need more prospects at every position. These kids will fail 7/10 times. So if you have ten good prospects, you likely have have three decent NHL players down the road. It’s funny the same guys holding a torch for Tryamkin to return are also putting Woo and Juolevi in a future top 4 defence.
It’s like drafting for need, it’s asinine. ‘Oh we have a hole on defence right now, let’s draft Olaf. We have two wingers in the pipeline drafted in the first round so we don’t need wingers.’ That kind of stupid thinking ends up biting you in the ass. There’s STILL a massive hole on the wing three years later. And on D.
Free agent signings - Chatfield, Sautner, Rafferty, Teves, MacEwen, Keily, Stecher worst than 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th round picks? They are a couple years older than an 18 year old draft pick, more ready, more of you know what you’re getting than an 18 year old mystery teenager, cross your fingers hope they pan out. Wasn’t Tanev a free agent signing? Boesers college teammate Stecher has turned out no? Don’t count?
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:45 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Sure the free agents help. Who said they didn’t? But hanging onto existing and acquiring more draft picks puts more prospects in the pipeline. After five years on the job there might be one prospect currently in Utica that can make the jump and play on the 4th line. That is horrendous.
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:28 am
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:45 am
Sure the free agents help. Who said they didn’t? But hanging onto existing and acquiring more draft picks puts more prospects in the pipeline. After five years on the job there might be one prospect currently in Utica that can make the jump and play on the 4th line. That is horrendous.
Regarding ‘existing’ isn’t Benning a little over the allotted amount in his time here. Yeah he could have added more but I believe there are pressures to not neglect the existing on ice product. Unfortunately as we’ve seen with this ownership the present situation takes presidence over futures, do you not agree about ownership demands and the notorious fickle fan base here that unlike markets in Edmonton and Toronto the seats get quite empty fast at Rogers Arena when not ‘winning’
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:52 am
by Island Nucklehead
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:28 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:45 am
Sure the free agents help. Who said they didn’t? But hanging onto existing and acquiring more draft picks puts more prospects in the pipeline. After five years on the job there might be one prospect currently in Utica that can make the jump and play on the 4th line. That is horrendous.
Regarding ‘existing’ isn’t Benning a little over the allotted amount in his time here. Yeah he could have added more but I believe there are pressures to not
neglect the existing on ice product. Unfortunately as we’ve seen with this ownership the present situation takes presidence over futures, do you not agree about ownership demands and the notorious fickle fan base here that unlike markets in Edmonton and Toronto the seats get quite empty fast at Rogers Arena when not ‘winning’
This is the product that has the fourth-worst points percentage since he was hired, and the 2nd-worst the past 4 seasons? Seems like he's done well in this regard. Despite being dog-shit on the ice, they've maintained a 95-98% attendance figure throughout his tenure. Seems the fans will still show up (or at least buy tickets).
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:05 am
by Chef Boi RD
Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:52 am
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:28 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:45 am
Sure the free agents help. Who said they didn’t? But hanging onto existing and acquiring more draft picks puts more prospects in the pipeline. After five years on the job there might be one prospect currently in Utica that can make the jump and play on the 4th line. That is horrendous.
Regarding ‘existing’ isn’t Benning a little over the allotted amount in his time here. Yeah he could have added more but I believe there are pressures to not
neglect the existing on ice product. Unfortunately as we’ve seen with this ownership the present situation takes presidence over futures, do you not agree about ownership demands and the notorious fickle fan base here that unlike markets in Edmonton and Toronto the seats get quite empty fast at Rogers Arena when not ‘winning’
This is the product that has the fourth-worst points percentage since he was hired, and the 2nd-worst the past 4 seasons? Seems like he's done well in this regard. Despite being dog-shit on the ice, they've maintained a 95-98% attendance figure throughout his tenure. Seems the fans will still show up (or at least buy tickets).
Nobody expected differently with what he inherited except you I suppose. Most of the hockey pundits through the media have said it will take around 7 years for the Canucks to get back to credibility when Gillis was fired, it was a wholesale mess throughout the organization top and bottom thanks to the two idiots - the Players Agent and his gimp - Lawrence Insurance Salesman Gilman. I don’t envision much would change with a different front office than the one that was hired after Gillis. It was a total mess. Also there isn’t a GM in the history of sports who bat 1,000. Mistakes happen, just be happy we picked Petterson instead of Glass, Hughes instead of Bouchard, drafted Boeser at 23. Demko in the 2nd round ffs
Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:10 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Lol there isn’t a history of a GM batting 1000 but you and your fellow gilpers say he IS batting 1000... hasn’t made ANY mistakes in your world.
