What trades do you think will actually happen this season?

[donlever]

Solid pass on Evan Gold.

Had my fill of former Bruins Assistant GM's.

Solid Canuck like Management process there.

[Meds]

Solid pass on Evan Gold.

Had my fill of former Bruins Assistant GM's.

Solid Canuck like Management process there.

Doing what I can.

[Ronning's Ghost]

The good thing with a rebuild is cap space doesn't matter as much...

It doesn't matter as much, but it still matters.

It is useful to leave the management at least the option of taking on the last few years of someone else's version of an Eriksson / OEL contract in exchange for the assets they'd have to throw in.

Edited one time to fix a spelling mistake.

[Nuckertuzzi]

Yup, weoponizing cap space is still a thing. I just hope whomever's in control has the foresight and creativity to use it positively.

[rockalt]

Jeezus, nobody's touching Peter's anchor contract with a ten-foot pole, you guys.

The guy is such a buzz kill, and that contract, it can't be done.

Yes it can snd yes it will. 479 points in 500 games. Attention to 2,way play. 27, signed long term and when he's on ( like 80 % of his career he's a top 10 forward). Some team WILL believe they can unlock the talent. You make it sound like he's Eric Gudbranson at 8 schmill a year.,Put the hate and anger aside. He's moveable but they may have to take a 5 million winger along with Byfield to balance the cap hits when they close the deal with LA.

The Pettersson loathing here is akin to the Dude bashing the teams best GM for 15 years.

I really hope so Blob, that'd be big for us. But I'm just not a believer, I think he's kind of radioactive out there.

Nice to see a voice of reason out there! I'm not referring to this board but the overwhelming angst among Canucks podcasts, fans, media etc. to "tear it down to the studs" even it means getting nothing in return.

EP40 is incredibly frustrating and not meeting his contract expectations but I think we have reached the point of seriously undervaluing his trade value, especially considering the dearth of centres available. As frustrating as the decline has been, the guy is the best forward on this team by a longshot and still producing some offense despite the lack of quality around him.

At this stage I am fully onboard with trading him but only if we're getting value in return. Yes he won't net a Quinn Hughes return but we should not unload him for the sake of it. People worry about the 'locker room cancer' effect but who is he poisoning? We first need to acquire the young talent before we have to worry about that! We are still in the early stages of a rebuild, so shouldn't care this much yet about creating a losing culture. Not to mention even if we land a coveted top centre this year or next, we'd potentially be feeding him to the wolves with unrealistic expectations. EP40 can manage the heavy minutes and deal with the media scrutiny to give the prospects some breathing space.

Again I think it's best to trade EP40 in the long run based on his age and inconsistency, but I will be pissed if they rush to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

[BoS]

No doubt Rockalt. It’s easy to spew visceral in times of utter dismay, see my diatribe yesterday in the “News and Notes” thread.

How does one quantify his trade value given his questionable mental and physical health and ongoing dressing room drama that unceremoniously imploded this once promising core?

How does one quantify his value given the substantial drop in impactful play, dating back 2 full years, including a playoff (dis)appearance and 4-Nations no-show?

It seems addition by subtraction is the common theme right now

[dangler]

Keep him around until he's begging for a trade

[theman]

Rumour that the Canucks are close to unloading Sherwood, sounds like they won’t get a first and SJ is a front runner.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Jeezus, nobody's touching Peter's anchor contract with a ten-foot pole, you guys.

The guy is such a buzz kill, and that contract, it can't be done.

Yes it can snd yes it will. 479 points in 500 games. Attention to 2,way play. 27, signed long term and when he's on ( like 80 % of his career he's a top 10 forward). Some team WILL believe they can unlock the talent. You make it sound like he's Eric Gudbranson at 8 schmill a year.,Put the hate and anger aside. He's moveable but they may have to take a 5 million winger along with Byfield to balance the cap hits when they close the deal with LA.

The Pettersson loathing here is akin to the Dude bashing the teams best GM for 15 years.

I really hope so Blob, that'd be big for us. But I'm just not a believer, I think he's kind of radioactive out there.

Nice to see a voice of reason out there! I'm not referring to this board but the overwhelming angst among Canucks podcasts, fans, media etc. to "tear it down to the studs" even it means getting nothing in return.

EP40 is incredibly frustrating and not meeting his contract expectations but I think we have reached the point of seriously undervaluing his trade value, especially considering the dearth of centres available. As frustrating as the decline has been, the guy is the best forward on this team by a longshot and still producing some offense despite the lack of quality around him.

At this stage I am fully onboard with trading him but only if we're getting value in return. Yes he won't net a Quinn Hughes return but we should not unload him for the sake of it. People worry about the 'locker room cancer' effect but who is he poisoning? We first need to acquire the young talent before we have to worry about that! We are still in the early stages of a rebuild, so shouldn't care this much yet about creating a losing culture. Not to mention even if we land a coveted top centre this year or next, we'd potentially be feeding him to the wolves with unrealistic expectations. EP40 can manage the heavy minutes and deal with the media scrutiny to give the prospects some breathing space.

Again I think it's best to trade EP40 in the long run based on his age and inconsistency, but I will be pissed if they rush to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

If he can fetch something decent back in a trade, Rockalt, that'd be even better. It's really hard to judge his perceived value around the league from here, inside the madhouse. I would love to be pleasantly surprised.

[Nuckertuzzi]

Keep him around until he's begging for a trade

Plus, for mental health sake, we need on ice scapegoats to vent our ire at the next several years. Poor Meaty if/when Petey goes.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Keep him around until he's begging for a trade

Plus, for mental health sake, we need on ice scapegoats to vent our ire at the next several years. Poor Meaty if/when Petey goes.

Thrift stores will be overloaded with Pouty Petey dolls if he is traded.

[rockalt]

Jeezus, nobody's touching Peter's anchor contract with a ten-foot pole, you guys.

The guy is such a buzz kill, and that contract, it can't be done.

Yes it can snd yes it will. 479 points in 500 games. Attention to 2,way play. 27, signed long term and when he's on ( like 80 % of his career he's a top 10 forward). Some team WILL believe they can unlock the talent. You make it sound like he's Eric Gudbranson at 8 schmill a year.,Put the hate and anger aside. He's moveable but they may have to take a 5 million winger along with Byfield to balance the cap hits when they close the deal with LA.

The Pettersson loathing here is akin to the Dude bashing the teams best GM for 15 years.

I really hope so Blob, that'd be big for us. But I'm just not a believer, I think he's kind of radioactive out there.

Nice to see a voice of reason out there! I'm not referring to this board but the overwhelming angst among Canucks podcasts, fans, media etc. to "tear it down to the studs" even it means getting nothing in return.

EP40 is incredibly frustrating and not meeting his contract expectations but I think we have reached the point of seriously undervaluing his trade value, especially considering the dearth of centres available. As frustrating as the decline has been, the guy is the best forward on this team by a longshot and still producing some offense despite the lack of quality around him.

At this stage I am fully onboard with trading him but only if we're getting value in return. Yes he won't net a Quinn Hughes return but we should not unload him for the sake of it. People worry about the 'locker room cancer' effect but who is he poisoning? We first need to acquire the young talent before we have to worry about that! We are still in the early stages of a rebuild, so shouldn't care this much yet about creating a losing culture. Not to mention even if we land a coveted top centre this year or next, we'd potentially be feeding him to the wolves with unrealistic expectations. EP40 can manage the heavy minutes and deal with the media scrutiny to give the prospects some breathing space.

Again I think it's best to trade EP40 in the long run based on his age and inconsistency, but I will be pissed if they rush to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

If he can fetch something decent back in a trade, Rockalt, that'd be even better. It's really hard to judge his perceived value around the league from here, inside the madhouse. I would love to be pleasantly surprised.

I just think he's a depressed asset and we shouldn't be in a rush to offload him, especially if it requires the Canucks to retain salary or receive crap back in a trade. I don't think this team has hit rock bottom yet from a performance standpoint and I think the quality of the trades we make now will significantly impact our ability to rebuild effectively.

No doubt his value has diminished greatly since 2 years ago but centres are still in high demand and if the management is smart about it, they should be able to get a decent return/avoid salary retention.

I think this has to be an offseason move - either this one or even the next one. I'm definitely in no rush - the prospect pool is too weak and we need to suck both this year and next as a minimum.

[rockalt]

No doubt Rockalt. It’s easy to spew visceral in times of utter dismay, see my diatribe yesterday in the “News and Notes” thread.

How does one quantify his trade value given his questionable mental and physical health and ongoing dressing room drama that unceremoniously imploded this once promising core?

How does one quantify his value given the substantial drop in impactful play, dating back 2 full years, including a playoff (dis)appearance and 4-Nations no-show?

It seems addition by subtraction is the common theme right now

All good points except I challenge the last point. Unless there is a serious culture problem where the rest of the team hates his guts, I don't think it's addition by subtraction at all (unless the return is decent). Assuming we just 'dump' him for nothing, that leaves Marco Rossi as our #1c. Sure it will help with the tank effort but I think that also screws over Rossi's development and puts more pressure on everyone else.

It's hard to know his value but I'd like to see the Canucks listen to offers but not jump at the first one. I suspect if EP40 finishes this year with 25+ goals and 60-70 points on this shit team, he will fetch a decent return. If he can exceed that or show well at the Olympics, even better. If he fails to deliver that level, well frankly I'd rather retain him another year and ride out the tank. I'm willing to take that risk - I think we can afford to hold on to him and wait for teams to get more desperate. We are going nowhere fast, so we should play that to our advantage.

[Ronning's Ghost]

I'm definitely in no rush

I see your perspective and it definitely makes sense.

I just want to see them trade Pettersson before they lose their nerve on the rebuild concept.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Jeezus, nobody's touching Peter's anchor contract with a ten-foot pole, you guys.

The guy is such a buzz kill, and that contract, it can't be done.

Yes it can snd yes it will. 479 points in 500 games. Attention to 2,way play. 27, signed long term and when he's on ( like 80 % of his career he's a top 10 forward). Some team WILL believe they can unlock the talent. You make it sound like he's Eric Gudbranson at 8 schmill a year.,Put the hate and anger aside. He's moveable but they may have to take a 5 million winger along with Byfield to balance the cap hits when they close the deal with LA.

The Pettersson loathing here is akin to the Dude bashing the teams best GM for 15 years.

I really hope so Blob, that'd be big for us. But I'm just not a believer, I think he's kind of radioactive out there.

Nice to see a voice of reason out there! I'm not referring to this board but the overwhelming angst among Canucks podcasts, fans, media etc. to "tear it down to the studs" even it means getting nothing in return.

EP40 is incredibly frustrating and not meeting his contract expectations but I think we have reached the point of seriously undervaluing his trade value, especially considering the dearth of centres available. As frustrating as the decline has been, the guy is the best forward on this team by a longshot and still producing some offense despite the lack of quality around him.

At this stage I am fully onboard with trading him but only if we're getting value in return. Yes he won't net a Quinn Hughes return but we should not unload him for the sake of it. People worry about the 'locker room cancer' effect but who is he poisoning? We first need to acquire the young talent before we have to worry about that! We are still in the early stages of a rebuild, so shouldn't care this much yet about creating a losing culture. Not to mention even if we land a coveted top centre this year or next, we'd potentially be feeding him to the wolves with unrealistic expectations. EP40 can manage the heavy minutes and deal with the media scrutiny to give the prospects some breathing space.

Again I think it's best to trade EP40 in the long run based on his age and inconsistency, but I will be pissed if they rush to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

If he can fetch something decent back in a trade, Rockalt, that'd be even better. It's really hard to judge his perceived value around the league from here, inside the madhouse. I would love to be pleasantly surprised.

I just think he's a depressed asset and we shouldn't be in a rush to offload him, especially if it requires the Canucks to retain salary or receive crap back in a trade. I don't think this team has hit rock bottom yet from a performance standpoint and I think the quality of the trades we make now will significantly impact our ability to rebuild effectively.

No doubt his value has diminished greatly since 2 years ago but centres are still in high demand and if the management is smart about it, they should be able to get a decent return/avoid salary retention.

I think this has to be an offseason move - either this one or even the next one. I'm definitely in no rush - the prospect pool is too weak and we need to suck both this year and next as a minimum.

I'm ready to kick his hipster ass to the curb right now. In fact, let's do it last year. I don't see that he adds anything beneficial to what we're currently trying to accomplish. If he's still worth anything at all on the trade market at this late date, I think we should get rid of him soon.

I guess it's risky either way, but I'm not into waiting around hoping he strikes lightning again.