The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

[Mickey107]

One thing should have happened not signed Tavares or signed Tavares and traded NILander for picks and prospects

Marner will get offer sheeted. The GMs know Dubas is screwed. Love it!

That's the consensus; https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/re ... spartanntp

Now watch them throw Willie on the market. Price? A minimum wage scrub and they'll try for a 2nd but take a 3rd. Wriggle, wriggle.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Just call it and start a rebuild. Fuck it this one looks like a mess. Fire sale

[BigTuna]

One thing should have happened not signed Tavares or signed Tavares and traded NILander for picks and prospects

Marner will get offer sheeted. The GMs know Dubas is screwed. Love it!

Have you ever put any thought into the fact that if Marner leaves by offersheet, Toronto have a ton of cap room, can now sign a UFA or trade for another winger, have 11 1st round picks the next 4 drafts? That screws Toronto is what you are saying? Not the end of the world. Toronto gets 4 1st rounders.

Here's the reality kids, there will be 0 o/s made for any big name. No team can give up 4 years of 1st rounders. That's crippling. That's why there will be no offersheets. Might be a better chance of Kapanen as it won't be 4 1st rounders for him.

You've been had by the Toronto media for more hits/listeners/readers.

[BigTuna]

Again, his numbers did not have Horton on LTIR.

Again, WRONG.

Next season the Leaves will be as fucked as a whore at closing time and you know it.

On the radio today they were discussing the Laughs and said this is the year they have to go all in because next season they are going to run into cap trouble. A big topic was Mathews and Marner contract and that both will be close and ~$11M each.

The Laughs can do it but the 4th line will be scrubs all making $1M or (I wish I was an NHL SCRUB ) less and the back up will be in the same boat. This is typical of many teams but those teams are not headline news on the "national" cough cough Toronto media every freaking day. So when the Laughs crash, and they will, I will just love listening to the crying all the way from beautiful Vancouver.

Shouldn't all NHL teams be doing that with the cap? Why should Toronto have Jay Beagle for 3 million per?

Pay your stars, DO NOT overpay for bottom 6 talent. They can be found for cheap easily. Canuck swill learn that one day.

[Strangelove]

One thing should have happened not signed Tavares or signed Tavares and traded NILander for picks and prospects

Marner will get offer sheeted. The GMs know Dubas is screwed. Love it!

Have you ever put any thought into the fact that if Marner leaves by offersheet, Toronto have a ton of cap room,

WRONG

[Meds]

One thing should have happened not signed Tavares or signed Tavares and traded NILander for picks and prospects

Marner will get offer sheeted. The GMs know Dubas is screwed. Love it!

Have you ever put any thought into the fact that if Marner leaves by offersheet, Toronto have a ton of cap room, can now sign a UFA or trade for another winger, have 11 1st round picks the next 4 drafts? That screws Toronto is what you are saying? Not the end of the world. Toronto gets 4 1st rounders.

Here's the reality kids, there will be 0 o/s made for any big name. No team can give up 4 years of 1st rounders. That's crippling. That's why there will be no offersheets. Might be a better chance of Kapanen as it won't be 4 1st rounders for him.

You've been had by the Toronto media for more hits/listeners/readers.

2013 - Frederik Gauthier (21)
2012 - Morgan Reilly (5)
2011 - Tyler Biggs (22)
2011 - Stuart Percy (25)

There's 4 consecutive 1st round picks made by your Toronto Maple Leaves.....I'd venture to say that Taranna would be no worse for wear without 3 of those guys.

I'm not convinced that Marner is the caliber of player that can be built around, for one thing he's a winger. Matthews clearly is that kind of top center, so if someone offer sheets Matthews and they lose him, that team will happily pay the price of a quartet of 1st round picks because they will have just nabbed themselves a franchise center who is barely 22. They can then make a few other deals to acquire some 2nd round picks and maybe even a 1st in the next few drafts.

Marner is not worth that many 1st rounders, but again, there are plenty of teams who strike out on their 1st rounders. The Islanders are the team most people speculate will offer sheet Marner. The draft history on the Island isn't exactly stellar.

Plenty of teams will pay the price for both of those guys because it's not that crippling.....and Toronto will almost certainly strike out completely on 1 of the 4, and they will surely get nothing better than a 3rd rounder on another. Lol.

[BigTuna]

One thing should have happened not signed Tavares or signed Tavares and traded NILander for picks and prospects

Marner will get offer sheeted. The GMs know Dubas is screwed. Love it!

Have you ever put any thought into the fact that if Marner leaves by offersheet, Toronto have a ton of cap room, can now sign a UFA or trade for another winger, have 11 1st round picks the next 4 drafts? That screws Toronto is what you are saying? Not the end of the world. Toronto gets 4 1st rounders.

Here's the reality kids, there will be 0 o/s made for any big name. No team can give up 4 years of 1st rounders. That's crippling. That's why there will be no offersheets. Might be a better chance of Kapanen as it won't be 4 1st rounders for him.

You've been had by the Toronto media for more hits/listeners/readers.

2013 - Frederik Gauthier (21)
2012 - Morgan Reilly (5)
2011 - Tyler Biggs (22)
2011 - Stuart Percy (25)

There's 4 consecutive 1st round picks made by your Toronto Maple Leaves.....I'd venture to say that Taranna would be no worse for wear without 3 of those guys.

I'm not convinced that Marner is the caliber of player that can be built around, for one thing he's a winger. Matthews clearly is that kind of top center, so if someone offer sheets Matthews and they lose him, that team will happily pay the price of a quartet of 1st round picks because they will have just nabbed themselves a franchise center who is barely 22. They can then make a few other deals to acquire some 2nd round picks and maybe even a 1st in the next few drafts.

Marner is not worth that many 1st rounders, but again, there are plenty of teams who strike out on their 1st rounders. The Islanders are the team most people speculate will offer sheet Marner. The draft history on the Island isn't exactly stellar.

Plenty of teams will pay the price for both of those guys because it's not that crippling.....and Toronto will almost certainly strike out completely on 1 of the 4, and they will surely get nothing better than a 3rd rounder on another. Lol.

Isn't it funny that you just happen to pick those 4 years. The team was run by Burke and Nonis. Notice how good Toronto have been run since they were fired?
And plenty of teams will pay 4 1sts..is that why it's never happened in NHL history? LOL.

I wouldn't mind 11 1st rounders in 4 years. I think that sets Torontoup amazingly. Let Marner and Matthews go.

In the end though, the issue is other teams. They won't want to pay that price.

I love also that when Toronto trades 1 single first rounder last week for Muzzin it's the end of the world on thsi board, yet 11 first rounders is no big deal. HAHAHA.

I want those 11 first rounders. Step-up with your best offersheets! Give them to Kappanen and Johnson as well, then it's 13.

[BigTuna]

One thing should have happened not signed Tavares or signed Tavares and traded NILander for picks and prospects

Marner will get offer sheeted. The GMs know Dubas is screwed. Love it!

Have you ever put any thought into the fact that if Marner leaves by offersheet, Toronto have a ton of cap room,

WRONG

Don't you think Marner gets 12-13 million? All of that is gone. They are fine. How much over the cap do you think Toronto will be? LOL.

[Meds]

No team in recent history has let a 21 year old franchise center get to RFA status where he could be tendered an offer sheet.

You are right about those draft years. But if you take out Matthews, the consensus #1 pick, you have Marner, but you still have your last couple 1sts who have yet to make a dent, one of them is starting to get passed over by other GM’s now in trade talks.

I’d be happy to let you have 11 first round picks in 4 years. You would get 3 legit legit players (top 3/top pairing) out of them and another 3-4 regular roster players. Then you’d have 4-5 guys who become career AHL’ers.

Your super team stops in its tracks of Dubas let’s Matthews get offer sheeted.

[Meds]

I want those 11 first rounders. Step-up with your best offersheets! Give them to Kappanen and Johnson as well, then it's 13.

You must be a closet Oilers fan or something.

[BigTuna]

Darren Dreger played you guys like a fool. This was a ll cheap attention.

Ever listen to Bob Mackenzie speak about offersheets? He claims he's heard nothing and will believe it when he sees it. He said he gave up spending time talking about them when Mark Stone did not get 1 single offer last summer.

Let's hope Dreger is right for one time. 11 picks minimum. Woohoo!

[BigTuna]

^ Leaves dee make goalies look bad and Marner will bust, is any of this getting through...

Well this prediction hasn't aged well...

Toronto's #1 goalie is a Vezina candidate and Marner is on pace for over 100 points.

So Marner goes from bust to deserving more than Mcdavid. LOL. You are admitting how wrong you were?

[Chef Boi RD]

William 7 Schmill NILander - 1 goal 23 games, that’s a 4 goal season pace

[BigTuna]

William 7 Schmill NILander - 1 goal 23 games, that’s a 4 goal season pace

He'll get 70+ points yearly. Book it. He had 49 even-strength points alone last season with low TOI and little PP time.

[Chef Boi RD]

Darren Dreger played you guys like a fool. This was a ll cheap attention.

Ever listen to Bob Mackenzie speak about offersheets? He claims he's heard nothing and will believe it when he sees it. He said he gave up spending time talking about them when Mark Stone did not get 1 single offer last summer.

Let's hope Dreger is right for one time. 11 picks minimum. Woohoo!

A teams cap situation is what brings to the attention -,offer sheet potentials. Like the Sharks offer sheeting the Blackhawks Hjalmerson knowing the Blackhawks struggles at the time of trying to get under the cap, it’s done to also screw the competitions cap situation and make life miserable for them. It’s a bonus if the offer sheet is accepted signed