In an alternate universe I'll say that if Benning doesn't move Edler before the draft for a top 3 pick, he should be canned! There's nothing to stop him from getting us Vilardi and Mittelstadt. Nothing. 1-2 years, we're back in the playoffs, Demko will lead us to the promised land!
Imagine the Canucks after the Tortorella year (i.e. missing the playoffs to some people's surprise) - winning the lottery, and trading the highest pick in the past 18 years for a 31 year old defenceman who, over the past 3 seasons, averaged 65 games, 23 points, and -5.
Edler is a rapidly diminishing asset, and will have nothing left in the tank by the time this team's competitive again. There is simply no way Dallas gives up the #3 for him. If Jim gets any return for him, he ought to take it. I've said all year the comparable trades would put his value at a high 2nd-rounder - and that's assuming he waives in such a way to give the Canucks some bargaining power.
Uncle dans leg wrote:
I fear that old Jimmy doesn't share the vision of many here and around the hockey world. He apparently sees the team as being better than anyone else does (save, of course "Du-Doc'n-Topper"...hey that has a ring to it lol)...
Jimmy and I see this team exactly as it is right now.
Jimmy and I are focused on 1-2 years from now (can you say rebuild?).
This is called "vision"... ironically enough.
Can't speak for Mr Topper but I challenge you to find a single Topper post that confirms what you say.
Uncle dans leg wrote:
I fear that old Jimmy doesn't share the vision of many here and around the hockey world. He apparently sees the team as being better than anyone else does (save, of course "Du-Doc'n-Topper"...hey that has a ring to it lol)...
Jimmy and I see this team exactly as it is right now.
Jimmy and I are focused on 1-2 years from now (can you say rebuild?).
This is called "vision"... ironically enough.
Can't speak for Mr Topper but I challenge you to find a single Topper post that confirms what you say.
By annointing him a genius before he has accomplished anything whatsover the three of you have endorsed him with your reputations on so many occasions i don't even know where to begin.
At the same time, it seems the entire hockey universe has been perplexed by his trading of youth for veterans and adding of free agents when a typical rebuild was all but smacking Jimmy in the befuddled face.
Now in fairness to Jimmy and by proxy Du-Doc'n-Topper...his most recent moves have re-gained him credibility here and around the league but the fact remains that he hasn't followed the beaten path out of the woods and has chosen then overgrown blackberry crusted one that weaves around back of the park.
Uncle dans leg wrote:
I fear that old Jimmy doesn't share the vision of many here and around the hockey world. He apparently sees the team as being better than anyone else does (save, of course "Du-Doc'n-Topper"...hey that has a ring to it lol)...
Jimmy and I see this team exactly as it is right now.
Jimmy and I are focused on 1-2 years from now (can you say rebuild?).
This is called "vision"... ironically enough.
Can't speak for Mr Topper but I challenge you to find a single Topper post that confirms what you say.
By annointing him a genius before he has accomplished anything whatsover the three of you have endorsed him with your reputations on so many occasions i don't even know where to begin.
At the same time, it seems the entire hockey universe has been perplexed by his trading of youth for veterans and adding of free agents when a typical rebuild was all but smacking Jimmy in the befuddled face.
Now in fairness to Jimmy and by proxy Du-Doc'n-Topper...his most recent moves have re-gained him credibility here and around the league but the fact remains that he hasn't followed the beaten path out of the woods and has chosen then overgrown blackberry crusted one that weaves around back of the park.
All geniuses... or genii... march to the beat of a different drummer.
I am Dr Watson to Jimmy's Sherlock Holmes... if you will.
Not to be a snob, but I don't expect the riffraff to understand.
EVERY SINGLE MOVE Jimmy has made since He got here seems brilliant in retrospect.
(or at least logical when put in perspective)
I believe that you Danny, leapt off the Benning bandwagon after just 5 weeks
... with His signing of Ryan Miller (rather than run with your boy, disgraced goaltender Eddie Lack).
Strangelove wrote:EVERY SINGLE MOVE Jimmy has made since He got here seems brilliant in retrospect.
(or at least logical when put in perspective)
I think most posters here are willing to concede that every GM is going to make a couple of mistakes, but....a 2nd round draft pick for Linden Vey seems brilliant in retrospect ? Maybe we're working with different definitions of genius.
Strangelove wrote:
In fact, you shat yourself at that particular point and have been stinking up the joint ever since!
Not only have i shat myself ever since...so has the team! Does that make me a visionary?
I gladly concede i was wrong about Ryan Miller though...he has been much much better than I thought. Unfortunately, if we had gone with giggles and Marky i would guess the rebuild would be much farther along
Strangelove wrote:EVERY SINGLE MOVE Jimmy has made since He got here seems brilliant in retrospect.
(or at least logical when put in perspective)
I think most posters here are willing to concede that every GM is going to make a couple of mistakes, but....a 2nd round draft pick for Linden Vey seems brilliant in retrospect ? Maybe we're working with different definitions of genius.
This is where they lose all credibility. There's zero middle ground and zero admission of mistakes even though there have been several. It's not a rabbit hole they jumped into its more like a fucking crater.
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
Strangelove wrote:EVERY SINGLE MOVE Jimmy has made since He got here seems brilliant in retrospect.
(or at least logical when put in perspective)
I think most posters here are willing to concede that every GM is going to make a couple of mistakes, but....a 2nd round draft pick for Linden Vey seems brilliant in retrospect ?
Vey was worth 50th overall at the time, someone linked to the Vey trade thread the other day
... and I noted NO ONE here was opposed to the trade at the time.
In fact, folks were excited about inserting a youngster with such a high ceiling into the lineup!
Vey was a great gamble given his stellar AHL numbers.
Too bad daddy eventually screwed up his head...
But we got 116 NHL games out of Vey (more than the average 50th overall gets you).
