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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:47 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:53 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:54 pm MJT may be a nut, but her views are not far off many Republicans who aren't too clear on separation of church and state. They want their bible beliefs to be enshrined in law.
Gotta call complete and utter bullshit on that one "Mr. Absolute Truth". :lol:
Well, believe what you want but your presidential candidate is the one flogging the bible and constitution combo deal, lol.

Yeah, let's MAKE America pray again. That's what government are for; forcing religion down our throat.

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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:51 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:47 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:53 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:54 pm MJT may be a nut, but her views are not far off many Republicans who aren't too clear on separation of church and state. They want their bible beliefs to be enshrined in law.
Gotta call complete and utter bullshit on that one "Mr. Absolute Truth". :lol:
Well, believe what you want but your presidential candidate is the one flogging the bible and constitution combo deal, lol.

Yeah, let's MAKE America pray again. That's what government are for; forcing religion down our throat.
*sigh*

They're not introducing any legislation these days based on the bible you paranoid nincompoop...

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:52 pm
by Strangelove

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:04 pm
by 5thhorseman
Haha, saw that. Was wondering when you'd post it.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:09 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:51 pm They're not introducing any legislation these days based on the bible you paranoid nincompoop...
They don't need new legislation when there's already arcane laws from the 1800s banning abortion outright. Trump accomplished it by stuffing the Supreme Court leading to Roe being overturned so now those laws apply again.

You're not fooling anyone Doc.

So what's Trump going to do about abortion then? Does he have the guts to go against his base?

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:59 pm
by Meds
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:09 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:51 pm They're not introducing any legislation these days based on the bible you paranoid nincompoop...
They don't need new legislation when there's already arcane laws from the 1800s banning abortion outright. Trump accomplished it by stuffing the Supreme Court leading to Roe being overturned so now those laws apply again.

You're not fooling anyone Doc.

So what's Trump going to do about abortion then? Does he have the guts to go against his base?
I thought abortion was a State issue, not Federal.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:33 pm
by 5thhorseman
Mëds wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:59 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:09 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:51 pm They're not introducing any legislation these days based on the bible you paranoid nincompoop...
They don't need new legislation when there's already arcane laws from the 1800s banning abortion outright. Trump accomplished it by stuffing the Supreme Court leading to Roe being overturned so now those laws apply again.

You're not fooling anyone Doc.

So what's Trump going to do about abortion then? Does he have the guts to go against his base?
I thought abortion was a State issue, not Federal.
That's the conundrum Trump faces. The GOP has long depended on the abortion issue for votes from its base, but now that Roe is overturned they are losing elections because of it. So he's considering a Federal abortion ban.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:22 am
by Per
Strangelove wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:33 pm
Cornuck wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:29 pm Doc comparing elected members of Congress to tv talking heads... :D
Again, both are just expressing their personal beliefs.

No legislation changes are being proposed (Zappa reference).

I responded only to the ridiculous Zappa reference....
So this whole abortion ban thing never happened? :shock:

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:24 am
by Per
Mëds wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:59 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:09 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:51 pm They're not introducing any legislation these days based on the bible you paranoid nincompoop...
They don't need new legislation when there's already arcane laws from the 1800s banning abortion outright. Trump accomplished it by stuffing the Supreme Court leading to Roe being overturned so now those laws apply again.

You're not fooling anyone Doc.

So what's Trump going to do about abortion then? Does he have the guts to go against his base?
I thought abortion was a State issue, not Federal.
That's what the SCOTUS would have you believe.

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:30 am
by Topper
SCOTUS is the final arbitrator, so you should be saying, "that is what SCOTUS has determined."

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:15 am
by Cornuck
Christian nationalists believe the U.S. and state governments should operate and legislate according to their interpretation of the Bible, and that only Christians who share their political and religious worldview should control the reins of power. While many right-wing activists seek to downplay or obfuscate their Christian nationalist agenda, Feucht has been very open about his intentions, reiterating his desire to see “God in control of the government” while standing outside the Wisconsin state capitol.

Later in the worship service, Republican state Rep. Chuck Wichgers appeared on stage, where he praised those who had gathered to pray for helping him fight the “demons” at work within the capitol.

“When it comes to this building, there’s demons in those walls,” Wichgers told the crowd. “The only way they go away is by this [prayer]. That’s the only way. And when you’re not here, those demons are laughing at you for not being here. They’re saying, ‘Go away, we’ll give you the laws that you want, we’ll violate the 10 Commandments, we’ll do whatever it takes to make you guys think you’re happy.’”
Yep..... no comment needed...

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:27 am
by 5thhorseman
The disgusting thing is that evangelicals know that Trump is a liar, rapist, and fraudster, among other things, but they still back him with the weird rationalisation that God uses bad people as instruments to achieve his purpose. Christians are willing to even sacrifice their own beliefs to establish a theocracy.

Yeah, Christians want to shove their religion down your throat that much.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:43 am
by Meds
5thhorseman wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:27 am The disgusting thing is that evangelicals know that Trump is a liar, rapist, and fraudster, among other things, but they still back him with the weird rationalisation that God uses bad people as instruments to achieve his purpose. Christians are willing to even sacrifice their own beliefs to establish a theocracy.

Yeah, Christians want to shove their religion down your throat that much.
Yeah, I don't think you know what you're talking about here.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:12 pm
by 5thhorseman
Mëds wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:43 am
5thhorseman wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:27 am The disgusting thing is that evangelicals know that Trump is a liar, rapist, and fraudster, among other things, but they still back him with the weird rationalisation that God uses bad people as instruments to achieve his purpose. Christians are willing to even sacrifice their own beliefs to establish a theocracy.

Yeah, Christians want to shove their religion down your throat that much.
Yeah, I don't think you know what you're talking about here.
Do you honestly think Trump is a Christian? I'm asking for your best guess, not asking for you to read his mind.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:01 pm
by rats19
Mëds wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:59 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:09 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:51 pm They're not introducing any legislation these days based on the bible you paranoid nincompoop...
They don't need new legislation when there's already arcane laws from the 1800s banning abortion outright. Trump accomplished it by stuffing the Supreme Court leading to Roe being overturned so now those laws apply again.

You're not fooling anyone Doc.

So what's Trump going to do about abortion then? Does he have the guts to go against his base?
I thought abortion was a State issue, not Federal.
It is now Mëds that’s what its all about R v W made it federal. I for one don’t get it, giving back to the states is less authoritarian…..