Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 1:01 pm
I honestly think the Aquas are managing the team and Jim is what the La Cosa Nostra refers to as a “Front Boss”. Made to look like the boss to deflect the feds away from who really is the boss. A Dupe persey. Dupe’s are notorious in the stock market. Stock promoters set up Dupe accounts with firms and manipulate stock and evade taxes by trading through an account belonging to a dupe, the Dupes are given a small percentage. The Dupes are usually the drunks, the drug addicts, the desperate
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:32 pm
Great post Chef, as most know I have long believed that Big Frank is the real director of the hockey operation with Jimmy serving as trusted advisor running the draft (except in the case of Virtanen - that was Mr Aquilini's call) and flak catching figurehead but I did not realize the deep Italian mafia roots of this kind of management structure until know. I'm grateful for your sharing of your expertise in this important area of the operation, it sheds further light on the murky goings on inside the belly of the beast.
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:54 pm
I also heard that Jim proposed a plan to sign Toffoli, buyout Sutter and move out other contracts but the Aqualini’s said no. Doyle, open your eyes, it’s not all Bennings doing ffs. The Aqualini’s didn’t want to spend a dime this year. They’ve set Jim up to fail, he’s their fall guy. The owners are a problem, they are vicious, they became a problem for Gillis like they became for Nonis.
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:15 pm
Okay guys, I'm not ashamed to admit I teared up a little when I read this post.
The truth shimmering like a rare jewel in the sun:
...
benning executed a strategy decided by someone else. somebody kept on spending money every offseason like it was burning a hole his pocket with unnecessary signings. what started out as dubious but defensible retool gamble has gradually degenerated into pathological behaviour at the craps table.
there is no way that behaviour would be tolerated by an owner for so long unless it was the owner's strategy.
95% of what is wrong with this team can be found in that long series of bad overextended bets on aging players.[/i]
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:43 am
But consensus seems to be that Francesco wanted a retool for the twins. To me that makes Francesco an emotional sap and the one who can’t handle a rebuild and it really kind of removes the criticism from Benning and it seems like it will make it tough to get a proven championship builder in here. IMO
Somebody ought to explain to Francesco quit fucking around with the team and act like a proper billionaire and piss off to the caymans to wait for the profits to roll in.
There are three tragedies (in the hockey fan scale of things) in this position. In ascending order:
1) We aren't exactly tilling new ground, here:
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:14 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:50 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:05 pm
the rebuild that they were attempting, one that tries to remain competitive and has roster players who are vets that can help show kids what it takes to play in the NHL and are still of an age that they might be useful pieces when the team is winning again.
And this, this "re-tool on the fly" concept, is my principle objection to the Benning era. He might have done it as well as it could be done, but it was a foolish plan that cost them resources and time on the real rebuild.
And I remain unconvinced that this was Benning's plan.
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:36 pm
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:45 am
I agree with Blob, the owners meddling have completely turned this organization one of the most confused organizations in the league, they need to let their “hockey people” they hire [d]o their job.... Holy fuck are we trouble
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:02 pm
So when ownership tells Gilllis to hire Torterella cause he’s Italian that’s normal?
micky107 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:55 am
There is
NO confirmed proof or anything, other than speculation. None.
rikster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:40 am
How would you know?
Or maybe you've done some research that tells you Vancouver and Ottawa are unique?
Just throwing stuff out there to suit your bias is a good example of the second comment regarding fans patience.
No, we have no proof, but my goodness Royal Dude's interpretation is an awfully good fit with what we can observe from outside the organization.
The franchise's situation has CanucksCorner chasing its tail.
2) Canucks fans already have to eat many bitter "what might have beens".
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:50 am
Perhaps it is the lone Achilles heal in what would otherwise be a brilliant suite of GM talent, and Benning will go on to tremendous success in another franchise where the ownership group is easier to manage.
3) But we're used to an unpleasant past. Worst of all is no hope for the future.
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:27 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:14 pm
Jimmy is practically perfect in every way.
Trust me, blame Aquaman for everything...
This view offers little hope for disappointed Canucks fans. If the problem is Benning, then hope is just a good personnel decision on the part of ownership away. If the problem is ownership, then this is nothing to hope for until problems elsewhere in their financial empire force the Little Eagles to sell. You're essentially telling Canucks fans that they're in the position of Harold Ballard era Leaves fans.
Note that I'm not saying you're wrong...
It's not like we can chant, or rent an airplane banner that says, "Fire Aquilini".
The only things I can think of to do are:
a) stay away so the franchise loses money, and the Little Eagles are motivated to sell to another ownership group, which we can hope will be more enlightened
b) pick a second favourite surrogate team to cheer for in the mean time
If one of you has a better plan, I'd be happy to read about it.