Good plan SkyoSKYO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:38 pm Yeah for construction folks, what's the best way to build a house for rookies? building a shitty house time after time? or do you build a good one, then a better one, until you build a multi-million dollar west side mansion.
All the best eventual championship teams gradually build up season after season until they win it all, blackhawks before went to the playoffs increased their teams points each year, 2005-65pts, 2006-71pts, 2007-89pts -> 2009-3rd round playoffs.
Canucks could in theory could reach mid-80's pts this season, and people want to see an improvement (OR ELSE).
2017-69pts, 2018-71pts, 2019-85pts? that's the goal imo, then for the 2019/20 season we'll have some fresh trained troops for the defense for a much needed influx of energy (Hughes, Juolevi) maybe EK.
Demko will have another year of experience, Jim Benning's preferred slow-cook style of goalies (Jimmy hates rushing goalies into the league).
That's the goal for this team now, to improve each year until they can win it all.
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Silence intelligence so stupid isn’t offended….
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:36 pm Markstrom has looked shaky for sure
Elmer should have signed Old Man Miller to a 5 year contract back in 2014.
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I didn’t say thatStrangelove wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:52 pmBlob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:36 pm Markstrom has looked shaky for sure
Elmer should have signed Old Man Miller to a 5 year contract back in 2014.
I guess you could brag to your friends that they won three more games if that’s wot you need
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Yes it wouldmicky107 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:36 amBlob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:57 am Wrong again. It’s a great draft class.
Sneaking into the playoffs with 82 points and getting skullfucked again like in 2015 would be horrible for this team.
WRONG.
It would not be horrible for this team!!!
Or me!!!!
And trust me when I tell you that no matter what people say now; if we manage to eke our way in;
The excitement around this town, and , yes, HERE TOO, would be off the fucking ding-dang wall.
Most importantly, the team would feel SUPERCHARGED, and that would be rather nifty for development.
This isn't 2015, damn it.
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Is Booze Macenzzi all over the map agai tonight?
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Hmmm is this the same Wise that I posted about ONE time? Yet Dude seems a bit obsessed with this playerRoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:08 pmBut ya gotta admit, win or lose, this city would be pretty fucking jacked about the future of this team? If we could draft Patrick? I could care less if we lost all 80 games next season. That means Jack Wise, Joseph Veleno or that Russian kid in 2018! Some folks are saying Wise is better than Eichel, and Veleno may be the best Canadian forward since McDavidIsland Nucklehead wrote:Honestly? Probably not much better.Mondi wrote: How good would the team look...with Boesser, Demko, and PATRICK in the lineup next season? Haha!
He wanted Patrick, Wise and Veleno
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How old is that post Blob? Why don’t you look and see where those players ranked at one time or another over the previous years leading up to the draft, was I out of order?Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:38 pmHmmm is this the same Wise that I posted about ONE time? Yet Dude seems a bit obsessed with this playerRoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:08 pmBut ya gotta admit, win or lose, this city would be pretty fucking jacked about the future of this team? If we could draft Patrick? I could care less if we lost all 80 games next season. That means Jack Wise, Joseph Veleno or that Russian kid in 2018! Some folks are saying Wise is better than Eichel, and Veleno may be the best Canadian forward since McDavidIsland Nucklehead wrote:Honestly? Probably not much better.Mondi wrote: How good would the team look...with Boesser, Demko, and PATRICK in the lineup next season? Haha!
He wanted Patrick, Wise and Veleno
Anyhow, aren’t you glad Benning ignores me? Otherwise no Pettersson, no Madden.
Anyhow nothing is stagnant when it comes to pre draft rankings not until the last couple months leading up the draft. Wise and Veleno were once considered 1st overall pick potentials. Am I wrong there?
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I guess this is the thread for it.
Pettersson is clearly a gifted hockey player. He is also very light, and proportionately more vulnerable to injury. (Both of the plays on which he has been injured this season involved the other player picking him up and tossing him down. Yes, that's a penalty. But this the NHL.)
Quinn Hughes has abundant talent, and is listed at the same weight as Pettersson. Tyler Madden is showing very well at the World Juniors, but is lighter than either of them.
It looks like Benning is building a highly-skilled, small team. Which seems weird to me, because I'm pretty sure he watched the 2011 Stanley Cup Playoff final, too. I feel like we've seen this movie before. It looks like the Canucks are on track to contend for a couple of more President's Trophies, but once the playoffs start and the whistles are forgotten, all of their most productive players will be mangled. (Mason Raymond's back says "hi".)
The only way I can imagine the roster we could project (based on what's on the ice, and what's in the pipeline) having any playoff success is if the League and its officials feel remorse for 2011, and call the Stanley Cup Playoffs like international hockey. You can work out the odds of that for yourselves.
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Pettersson is clearly a gifted hockey player. He is also very light, and proportionately more vulnerable to injury. (Both of the plays on which he has been injured this season involved the other player picking him up and tossing him down. Yes, that's a penalty. But this the NHL.)
Quinn Hughes has abundant talent, and is listed at the same weight as Pettersson. Tyler Madden is showing very well at the World Juniors, but is lighter than either of them.
It looks like Benning is building a highly-skilled, small team. Which seems weird to me, because I'm pretty sure he watched the 2011 Stanley Cup Playoff final, too. I feel like we've seen this movie before. It looks like the Canucks are on track to contend for a couple of more President's Trophies, but once the playoffs start and the whistles are forgotten, all of their most productive players will be mangled. (Mason Raymond's back says "hi".)
The only way I can imagine the roster we could project (based on what's on the ice, and what's in the pipeline) having any playoff success is if the League and its officials feel remorse for 2011, and call the Stanley Cup Playoffs like international hockey. You can work out the odds of that for yourselves.
Meat and Potatoes ?
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Some may feel obliged to point out that smaller, highly skilled teams have had playoff success before, and that there are many -- maybe more than ever before -- smaller players having success now. Those are True Facts.
But those are different franchises, and different cities. And this is the NHL.
But those are different franchises, and different cities. And this is the NHL.
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This team will be tiny in the future
Petey is 165
Hughes is 160
Madden is 155
Razor Thin Olaf is 176
Stecher is 180
Sutter is 180
Eriksson is 180
Granlund is 180
Baertshi is 180
Motte is 170
That’s half the roster and the bigger guys like Horvat, Beaglet, Edler, Gudbranson and Virtanen don’t play especially big.
Petey is 165
Hughes is 160
Madden is 155
Razor Thin Olaf is 176
Stecher is 180
Sutter is 180
Eriksson is 180
Granlund is 180
Baertshi is 180
Motte is 170
That’s half the roster and the bigger guys like Horvat, Beaglet, Edler, Gudbranson and Virtanen don’t play especially big.
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Your numbers are amazingly accurate!!! Overwhelmingly
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Marner
Kane
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No place in the game for small people
We need some Ryan Stantons!!
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No place in the game for small people
We need some Ryan Stantons!!
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Blob has always flat out lied to make his "points", that's not gunna change.
He knows Canuck fans are angry about the Eli attacks, so what does he do?
He tries to direct that anger toward Jimbro, in Emperor Palpatine fashion.
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Lol I’m just saying it’s a very soft and very tiny, timid team. There’s a place for small players for sure. I just don’t think you need a dozen razor thin players. If you build it that way get a couple legit mean, tough players like a younger Raffi Torres and a Tommy Wilson type guy.Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:38 pm
Blob has always flat out lied to make his "points", that's not gunna change.
He knows Canuck fans are angry about the Eli attacks, so what does he do?
He tries to direct that anger toward Jimbro, in Emperor Palpatine fashion.
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Aren’t the Lightning the smallest team in he league, or very close to it? They seem to be pretty good.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:23 pm This team will be tiny in the future
Petey is 165
Hughes is 160
Madden is 155
Razor Thin Olaf is 176
Stecher is 180
Sutter is 180
Eriksson is 180
Granlund is 180
Baertshi is 180
Motte is 170
That’s half the roster and the bigger guys like Horvat, Beaglet, Edler, Gudbranson and Virtanen don’t play especially big.
Just get skilled hockey players. Can always sign Ryan Reeves if you need protection later on.
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Point - 5’-10” 166 lbsDiehard1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:58 pmAren’t the Lightning the smallest team in he league, or very close to it? They seem to be pretty good.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:23 pm This team will be tiny in the future
Petey is 165
Hughes is 160
Madden is 155
Razor Thin Olaf is 176
Stecher is 180
Sutter is 180
Eriksson is 180
Granlund is 180
Baertshi is 180
Motte is 170
That’s half the roster and the bigger guys like Horvat, Beaglet, Edler, Gudbranson and Virtanen don’t play especially big.
Just get skilled hockey players. Can always sign Ryan Reeves if you need protection later on.
Tyler Johnson - 5’-8” 183 lbs
Gourde - 5’-9” 172 lbs
Martel - 5’-8” 162 lbs
Cirelli - 5’-11” 178 lbs
Kucherov - 5’-11” 178 lbs
Stralman - 5”-11” 190 lbs
HUGE! And Tampa sucks!
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