Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:45 pm
Per wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:31 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:21 pm
Well no shit.....but I don't see the Foppa comparisons at all. Forsberg was 6'0 205lbs, Petey is 6'2" 176lbs. Sure he may possess a similar tenacity and drive to compete, but to date I've seen that work its way out as frustrated pouting, not in hard work on the boards and constantly frustrating defenders.
I'd be thrilled if Pete could be even a 90 point guy.
Oh, he’ll get there alright!
Remember how the twins started out with 30 point seasons and then worked their way up to 100?
Well, Petey started with consecutive 60+ point seasons, so all things being equal, he ought to reach 200 at his peak!
I mean a career 90 point guy. Hell, if he can be a career 82 point guy that would be great.
The Sedins were career 65 point players. They started slow, peaked, and dropped off.
Career, eh? OK, 90 goals over 82 games is an 1.097 ppg clip. So basically 1.10.
Only 34 players in the history of the NHL meet that criterion. But sure, we're talking generational...
Player......... Pos _GP_ _ G _ _ A _ _ P _ P/GP
Wayne Gretzky.. C 1 487 _894 1 963 2 857 1.92
Mario Lemieux.. C _915 _690 1 033 1 723 1.88
Newsy Lalonde.. C __99 _125 __42 _167 1.69
Shep Mayer...... R ___2 ___1 ___2 ___3 1.50
Mike Bossy....... R _752 _573 _553 1 126 1.50
Joe Malone...... C _126 _143 __33 _176 1.40
Bobby Orr........ D _657 _270 _645 _915 1.39
Connor McDavid C _382 _179 _343 _522 1.37
John English..... D ___3 ___1 ___3 ___4 1.33
Marcel Dionne... C 1 348 _731 1 040 1 771 1.31
Sidney Crosby... C 1 011 _473 _819 1 292 1.28
Peter Stastny.... C _977 _450 _789 1 239 1.27
Peter Forsberg.. C _708 _249 _636 _885 1.25
Kent Nilsson..... C _553 _264 _422 _686 1.24
Phil Esposito..... C 1 282 _717 _873 1 590 1.24
Guy Lafleur...... R 1 126 _560 _793 1 353 1.20
Joe Sakic........ C 1 378 _625 1 016 1 641 1.19
Dale Hawerchuk C 1 188 _518 _891 1 409 1.19
Evgeni Malkin... C _935 _424 _676 1 100 1.18
Pat LaFontaine.. C _865 _468 _545 1 013 1.17
Steve Yzerman.. C 1 514 _692 1 063 1 755 1.16
Todd Bergen..... C __14 __11 ___5 __16 1.14
Eric Lindros...... C _760 _372 _493 _865 1.14
Bernie Federko. C 1 000 _369 _761 1 130 1.13
Denis Savard.... C 1 196 _473 _865 1 338 1.12
Jari Kurri......... R 1 251 _601 _797 1 398 1.12
Bryan Trottier... C 1 279 _524 _901 1 425 1.11
Gilbert Perreault C 1 191 _512 _814 1 326 1.11
Pavel Bure....... R _702 _437 _342 _779 1.11
Jaromir Jagr..... R 1 733 _766 1 155 1 921 1.11
Alex Ovechkin... L 1 176 _717 _582 1 299 1.10
Harry Cameron.. D _129 __88 __54 _142 1.10
Bobby Hull....... L 1 063 _610 _560 1 170 1.10
Brett Hull........ R 1 269 _741 _650 1 391 1.10
It'd be amazing if he made that list!
He is at 0.93 right now, so not that far away. Ranking in at 154th of 7250 NHL players of all time; two slots behind Daniel Alfredsson, five ahead of Joe Thornton.
Assuming he keeps improving for another two or three years, then stays at that level for another five to eight before starting to lose some of his edge, he could end up up there. Definitely among the 100 greatest ppg scorers of all time, for sure.
Oh, btw, smart move by Shep Mayer and John English to quit after two and three games respectively, that way ensuring that they will be firmly lodged in the top ten for all eternity!