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Well I didn't agree with the decision to match but it was a tough call and now that its done all we can do is hope that it turns out to be the right move. Funny thing is that if he does earn his contract this year he's going to want 3 mill or more next year so we're fucked either way.
You're only young once, but you can be immature forever
magnum44 wrote:Well I didn't agree with the decision to match but it was a tough call and now that its done all we can do is hope that it turns out to be the right move. Funny thing is that if he does earn his contract this year he's going to want 3 mill or more next year so we're fucked either way.
Wow Mag44 you are just a little bitter. He isn't worth 1.9 but if he does turn out to be worth it then he'll want more. Man what an ingrate eh?
i would have just liked to have seen him sign longterm if we're going to pay him him 1.9. Kind of negates the value of developing your draft picks if you have to pay them top dollar and renegotiate every year during their restricted years. the sedins were only making kesler money last season and they were higher draft picks with multiple seasons under their belt who played during a no cap system. Does anyone honestly think kesler is going to be as valuable to the team NEXT year? And from what I understand 1.9mill is now his qualifying offer for next year regardless of how he performs.
You're only young once, but you can be immature forever
magnum44 wrote:i would have just liked to have seen him sign longterm if we're going to pay him him 1.9. Kind of negates the value of developing your draft picks if you have to pay them top dollar and renegotiate every year during their restricted years. the sedins were only making kesler money last season and they were higher draft picks with multiple seasons under their belt who played during a no cap system. Does anyone honestly think kesler is going to be as valuable to the team NEXT year? And from what I understand 1.9mill is now his qualifying offer for next year regardless of how he performs.
Agreed, but if he underperforms, we can take him to arbitration, but then he'd become UFA in a year, so we better take the opportunity to steal something from Clarke AND drive up his cap.
magnum44 wrote:No matter what happens this year Kesler will need to be qualified at 1.9 or higher next year or else he becomes a ufa.
I'm not sure the procedure, but he is eligible for us to take him to arbitration, so maybe we have to qualify and THEN take him to arbitration, or we file for arbitration right from the start. I'm not sure how it works, but we definitely have the right to take him there and lower his salary if he underperforms, the catch is that he becomes UFA much sooner, I think if we do take him to arbitration, then he automatically becomes a UFA after the year of the new contract.
My preference would be for Nonis to sign him long-term as soon as he can (I think in January he can start negotiating an extension) that would make the $1.9 million a bit more reasonable, if he doesn't perform well, if he does, great, then just qualify him straight up.
magnum44 wrote:i would have just liked to have seen him sign longterm if we're going to pay him him 1.9.
According to the CBA this can't be done until Jan.
magnum44 wrote: Kind of negates the value of developing your draft picks if you have to pay them top dollar and renegotiate every year during their restricted years.
Totally agree, and this is what most posters were getting at by putting the blame on Clarke.
magnum44 wrote: the sedins were only making kesler money last season
Took the Sedins 5 years to get to their mark (and they were still 600K lower than what Clarke offered). When Clarke complains that he isn't inflating prices/salaries, this is a perfect example of his ignorance/arrogance.
Ronning's Ghost wrote:I know the Canucks have invested quite a bit in Kesler, but at this point I'd prefer the cap space and the second rounder.
As I recall, his projected career upside was 'elite' third liner. I think that's just too much money for that kind of player under the current CBA.
Wee bit of the ghosts wisdom...
To be fair, some people, including hockey analysts, thought Burke was nuts to draft Kesler instead of Tambellini...
To be bad, Burke missed Backes in the second round. Instead, he drafted Marc-Andre Bernier.
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Jovocop wrote:
To be fair, most people thought Burke was nuts to draft Kesler instead of Tambellini...
This wasn't about the draft..offer sheet from clarkypoo at resign time..
I understood. I was just saying that not many people thought that Kesler was anything more than a third line centre from the day he was drafted until the offer sheet from Clarke.