Teams doing well without a star goalie has been happening for a while. Apart from LA and Johnny B Quick, has an elite goalie talent won the Cup in the last few years? I can't think of one.Uncle dans leg wrote:I find it interesting that 3 of the 4 goalies left are not your typical franchise type of players. This is one aspect of the modern game that surprises me. Nothing against Crawford but he's only an average type of 'tender and Bishop/Andersen have been letting in some cheese the last few games.
Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
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The Score mentioned today that Justin Pogge would like to return to the NHL.
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The Pogue!Topper wrote:The Score mentioned today that Justin Pogge would like to return to the NHL.
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Shane McGowan and Gump Worsley had the same dentist.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Habs sign Petry 6 years, $33 million, $5.5million per year with an NTC.
Those are better term and $'s than Luca for a player two years older with comparable stats.
Those are better term and $'s than Luca for a player two years older with comparable stats.
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Topper wrote:Habs sign Petry 6 years, $33 million, $5.5million per year with an NTC.
Those are better term and $'s than Luca for a player two years older with comparable stats.
Not according to the Advanced Stats. Petry is superior. He also plays more, and puts up more points. He doubled Sbisa's point totals this season.
I'm not a huge fan of Petry's deal, especially with that NTC, but he's a top-4 guy. Sbisa, on the other hand, is comparable to Ryan Stanton when it comes to advanced stats and has a worse Points/Game than Stanton over his career.
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The stats where shots replace goals doesn't make the Petry deal any sweeter.
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They are both terrible contracts . Sbisa is a Chinese fire drill every second shift
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Wow...nice for Petry.Topper wrote:Habs sign Petry 6 years, $33 million, $5.5million per year with an NTC.
Those are better term and $'s than Luca for a player two years older with comparable stats.
I guess we can forget about getting Cody Franson...if I was his agent, I'd be asking for the same money.
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That's pretty ball park for Fanson. Seriously, if Benning is interested he needs to move Bieksa or Hamhuis, we always knew that though.Zedlee wrote:Wow...nice for Petry.Topper wrote:Habs sign Petry 6 years, $33 million, $5.5million per year with an NTC.
Those are better term and $'s than Luca for a player two years older with comparable stats.
I guess we can forget about getting Cody Franson...if I was his agent, I'd be asking for the same money.
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IF Canucks are truly after Franson, I can't see them offering more than $5M per (Edler limit).
(although this is Odd Jim we're talking about)
So 6 X $5M = $30M (front-loaded?)
Obviously, Franson has been rumoured to have Vancouver high on his preferred-destination list.
Would he give a 10% discount towards that end?
(note: not all teams are in a position to front-load)
IF Canucks are truly after RS Franson, RS Bieksa would have to go.
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(although this is Odd Jim we're talking about)
So 6 X $5M = $30M (front-loaded?)
Obviously, Franson has been rumoured to have Vancouver high on his preferred-destination list.
Would he give a 10% discount towards that end?
(note: not all teams are in a position to front-load)
IF Canucks are truly after RS Franson, RS Bieksa would have to go.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
You say aside from Quick, but he has won the cup 2 of the last 3 years. Without him do the Kings get it done?Zedlee wrote:Teams doing well without a star goalie has been happening for a while. Apart from LA and Johnny B Quick, has an elite goalie talent won the Cup in the last few years? I can't think of one.Uncle dans leg wrote:I find it interesting that 3 of the 4 goalies left are not your typical franchise type of players. This is one aspect of the modern game that surprises me. Nothing against Crawford but he's only an average type of 'tender and Bishop/Andersen have been letting in some cheese the last few games.
Not many goalies right now that you would consider "franchise" type players anyways...Price obviously, and after that the likes of Lundqvist, Quick.......maybe Rinne, Rask. But it ends about there.
That said, the list of goalies taking their teams to the SCF over the past few years is still pretty star studded...
2014 - Quick vs Lundqvist
2013 - Crawford vs Rask
2012 - Quick vs Brodeur
2011 - Thomas vs Luongo
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Shane McGowan had a dentist?!Topper wrote:Shane McGowan and Gump Worsley had the same dentist.
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Is that Sbisa, or BXA? Juice has been terrible the last 2 seasons, and Sbisa is not the right partner for him. Bisa just replaced Ballard on the "killer B" defense.Blob Mckenzie wrote:They are both terrible contracts . Sbisa is a Chinese fire drill every second shift
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At least Bieksa has provided something in the past, still provides leadership and some grit, is a great interview and only has a year left.Tciso wrote:Is that Sbisa, or BXA? Juice has been terrible the last 2 seasons, and Sbisa is not the right partner for him. Bisa just replaced Ballard on the "killer B" defense.Blob Mckenzie wrote:They are both terrible contracts . Sbisa is a Chinese fire drill every second shift
Sbisa provides nothing but sunburn to the back of our goalies necks. SPF 3.6 Million.