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Diehard1 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:48 am
I still have no idea who Colin Miller's name isn't out there - he's a good skater, scores almost as many points as Ristolainen (41 for each 2 years ago, while Miller had 29 in 65 games last year), RHS, decent size, signed for 3 more years at $3.875 million per versus $5.4 million for Risto, isn't wanted on his current team, is only 26, and Vegas has major cap issues. He's as close to a perfect fit as there is in the market.
I've mentioned Collin Miller a couple of times. Maybe they've tried, haven't heard directly.
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Probably entering his prime and a great price for three more years.

It may well be a situation where the Canucks don't want to let go of a first round pick next year or a prospect in, or soon to be in,
the system.
If they are trying to shed cap, they wont want any of our roster players that I can think of that we would let go of. Damn it.

Maybe if we could move Tanev first for a pick, then add a bit to it? Ah who knows.
He is the right fit though...
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Topper wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:43 am Hey Baubles, any truth to the rumour Edler also gets a 3rd round pick as part of his deal?
Edler was a 3rd round pick. Shoulda just traded that 3rd for a Linden Vey type player.
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Miller has an interesting history...
Won the OHL leadership award as captain of the Greyhounds
Won fastest skater and hardest shot at AHL all-star competition
Traded to Boston in the Lucic to LA move

He also looked damn good in this year's playoffs - notable hard-worker. Heart, speed, heavy shot, decent size, RH. Seems like a great pick-up.
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Two thumbs up for Benning on the Edler signing. Great job sticking with the two years.

As per Miller - sure I'd like the addition but depending on the price tag. Hard to part with any of the young talent we have coming up and still think JB needs to hold onto as many picks as possible. Obviously Miller won't come cheap but definitely worth kicking the tires to see what is the asking price.
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@Sportsnet650

Benning - “We put a provision in Edler’s contract in case for whatever reason the expansion draft date is moved up that he will be eligible to be exposed.”
12:16 PM - 20 Jun 2019 from Vancouver, British Columbia
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Edward really wanted to stay, mm?
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micky107 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:20 pm @Sportsnet650

Benning - “We put a provision in Edler’s contract in case for whatever reason the expansion draft date is moved up that he will be eligible to be exposed.”
12:16 PM - 20 Jun 2019 from Vancouver, British Columbia
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Edward really wanted to stay, mm?
Colour me impressed. Three thumbs up for Benning on this one. Chris Gear was obviously in his ear to get such a provision.
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DonCherry4PM wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:30 pm
micky107 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:20 pm @Sportsnet650

Benning - “We put a provision in Edler’s contract in case for whatever reason the expansion draft date is moved up that he will be eligible to be exposed.”
12:16 PM - 20 Jun 2019 from Vancouver, British Columbia
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Edward really wanted to stay, mm?
Colour me impressed. Three thumbs up for Benning on this one. Chris Gear was obviously in his ear to get such a provision.
Kudos to Edler on this too. He's willing to gamble on himself and trust that the team will want him still in 2 years as a veteran guy. He's giving up some guaranteed years of salary to help the team, especially with that provision.

The speculation regarding his seriousness about wanting to stay in Vancouver is put do rest for me with this, and I take it at full value when he said that he wants to stay even if it means that he moves down the depth chart as other players surpass him in terms of level of play.

I will actually be surprised if he's not re-signed and playing on the 2nd or 3rd pairing 3 years from now at half this current salary.....or less depending.
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Edler is a canuck for life kind of guy. Theres the character the team needs showing the kids how its done.

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DonCherry4PM wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:30 pm
micky107 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:20 pm @Sportsnet650

Benning - “We put a provision in Edler’s contract in case for whatever reason the expansion draft date is moved up that he will be eligible to be exposed.”
12:16 PM - 20 Jun 2019 from Vancouver, British Columbia
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Edward really wanted to stay, mm?
Colour me impressed. Three thumbs up for Benning on this one. Chris Gear was obviously in his ear to get such a provision.
Yep. This is a big win for Benning/Vancouver. He knew Edler didn’t really want to play elsewhere, and made him prove it.
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Hank wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:32 pm Francesco likey...

https://twitter.com/fr_aquilini/status/ ... 6903006208
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Benning is boss...
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Based on Kevin Hayes' contract, a player of JT Miller's caliber would have fetched 7.14 x 7 in today's free agency. Instead, the Canucks now have him for 5.25 x 4. The deal takes him to age 30, which is when most forwards end their primes.

Hayes; http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=127775
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Miller; http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=123367
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micky107 wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:11 am Based on Kevin Hayes' contract, a player of JT Miller's caliber would have fetched 7.14 x 7 in today's free agency. Instead, the Canucks now have him for 5.25 x 4. The deal takes him to age 30, which is when most forwards end their primes.

Hayes; http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=127775
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Miller; http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=123367
I would argue he'd have fetched more because, based on their whole body of work in general, JT looks to be (roughly) at least 5 goals and 10 points better. If Hayes is indeed going to be a contract benchmark going forward (good Christ), then JT's contract is indeed a bargain for 4 more years. I, like most everyone else, had severe sticker shock with that 1st rounder - I think because it's not a sexy pickup. But it is a really solid one. Benning seems to have paid for cost certainty at a good cap hit and good term. Did he over pay? Without being an insider we will likely never know. The occasions where it seems he has negotiated against himself lead to scepticism. All things remaining consistent JT should be putting up Horvat numbers at the same value price tag...Well hopefully Horvat continues to trend upwards but I digress. I just hope the idiot Vancouver fans don't run Miller out of town because they think Gmjb overpaid.
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