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[Hockey Widow]

Word is deal done. 8 years at 9 million per. Looking for confirmation.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie

[Strangelove]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=458569

After months of negotiations and speculation and a salary arbitration hearing, P.K. Subban is going to be a long-term Montreal Canadien.

The restricted free agent defenceman agreed to terms on a eight-year, $72 million contract with the team on Saturday, avoiding a salary arbitration ruling. Subban's average annual value is $9 million.

PK Subban and the Habs not even in the same ballpark.

Subban is asking $8.5M. Canadiens are offering $5.25M and a one-year deal.

Those are just the numbers given to the arbitrator (on a one-year contract).

Just part of the negotiation process.

Everyone knows Subban will get 8 X $8m to $9m.

It's a CURSE I tells ya!

[Betamax]

Word is deal done. 8 years at 9 million per. Looking for confirmation.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie

by Betamax » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:17 am:

PK Subban and the Habs not even in the same ballpark.

Subban is asking $8.5M. Canadiens are offering $5.25M and a one-year deal.

Those are just the numbers given to the arbitrator (on a one-year contract).

Just part of the negotiation process.

Everyone knows Subban will get 8 X $8m to $9m.

Yeah ... if I was going to make a prediction it will be in the higher end of the range, give 6 of those years will be during his UFA status. I'm going to predict 8 years for 72M (9M AAV).

i think It will be in that range +/- 4M in total (68M-76M) for 8 years.

As Dudelove stated, everyone in the know ........... knew what the final outcome would be.

I'm not writing .... I'm just writing.

[Cousin Strawberry]

I still take all of my listed d-men in a winner takes all game today ahead of PK.

Never mind all the bullshit....

[SKYO]

Guess we'll have to draft a #1 dman even though 95% of you are against drafting dmen in 1st round.

[BigTuna]

Good move by Montreal. Puzzling they did not do this sooner. PK is a franchise D-man you build your team around. worth every penny.

[Hockey Widow]

Good move by Montreal. Puzzling they did not do this sooner. PK is a franchise D-man you build your team around. worth every penny.

I agree a good move. No sense going through this next year where PK has even more leverage, ie plays out the year and walks. 9 seems a tad high, certainly no home team discount, but not so high that it is a bad contract, it is a decent contract. 8.5 would have been a better number but 9 is still in the right range for PK. He is worth it.

Makes you realize, again, that MG did a good job in locking players up for reasonable cap hits that often had some home team discount in them. Sure they had NTC but as we have seen these are moveable, the return can be questionable but nonetheless they can be moved. Instead of fewer NTC in the future I think we see more, more modified, more NMC, more full NTC.

[dbr]

Boy, that bridge deal.

The Canadiens got 2 years of Subban at $2.9m but when you average that out with these next two that's nearly $6m (and of course there's the $6m swing in cap this offseason).

You have to think they could have likely got him for four or five years at about $5m before - probably significantly less - and still signed a deal like this one afterwards. They'd have been a better team this year and next year, for sure.

[Island Nucklehead]

Guess we'll have to draft a #1 dman even though 95% of you are against drafting dmen in 1st round.

Why does it matter who we draft where? Where was PK drafted? oh yeah.. 2nd round, 43rd overall. Where was Weber drafted? Oh yeah... 2nd round, 49th overall.

You don't need to pick high, you just need to pick smart.

[2Fingers]

Guess we'll have to draft a #1 dman even though 95% of you are against drafting dmen in 1st round.

Why does it matter who we draft where? Where was PK drafted? oh yeah.. 2nd round, 43rd overall. Where was Weber drafted? Oh yeah... 2nd round, 49th overall.

You don't need to pick high, you just need to pick smart.

No you need to develop and give them real ice time in the NHL. This is one area the Canucks have sucked big time unless it was due to injuries. We will see how they do with the latest round of drafted players but under MG and AV unless you were a super star you never saw the ice. Make a mistake (like a rookie should) and you paid for it the rest of the game.

[dbr]

Guess we'll have to draft a #1 dman even though 95% of you are against drafting dmen in 1st round.

Why does it matter who we draft where? Where was PK drafted? oh yeah.. 2nd round, 43rd overall. Where was Weber drafted? Oh yeah... 2nd round, 49th overall.

You don't need to pick high, you just need to pick smart.

No you need to develop and give them real ice time in the NHL. This is one area the Canucks have sucked big time unless it was due to injuries. We will see how they do with the latest round of drafted players but under MG and AV unless you were a super star you never saw the ice. Make a mistake (like a rookie should) and you paid for it the rest of the game.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.. like the fact that a large handful of young players were treated more or less exactly that way around the start of the AV/Gillis era and have gone onto successful NHL careers.

The reason subsequent players didn't succeed is because the team produced three NHL calibre players (who did not get themselves killed) out of six consecutive drafts - although I suppose you can say the jury is still out on Connauton and Schroeder. But no amount of coddling was going to turn Sergei Shirokov or Anton Rodin or whoever into a contributing NHL player.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Why does it matter who we draft where? Where was PK drafted? oh yeah.. 2nd round, 43rd overall. Where was Weber drafted? Oh yeah... 2nd round, 49th overall.

You don't need to pick high, you just need to pick smart.

Maybe it's smart, but maybe it's just plain luck. Nashville picked Ryan Suter, Konstantin Glazachev, and Kevin Klein before they picked Shea Weber (2 of whom are D-men); Montreal went with Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty before they picked Subban (1 of whom is a D-man). I don't think Nashville and Montreal expected their 2 Norris D-men to become that good.

All I know is that the odds of getting a top franchise player is WAY higher with the first few picks of a draft vs the lower first rounds, 2nd rounds and beyond.

[SKYO]

Why does it matter who we draft where? Where was PK drafted? oh yeah.. 2nd round, 43rd overall. Where was Weber drafted? Oh yeah... 2nd round, 49th overall.

You don't need to pick high, you just need to pick smart.

Maybe it's smart, but maybe it's just plain luck. Nashville picked Ryan Suter, Konstantin Glazachev, and Kevin Klein before they picked Shea Weber (2 of whom are D-men); Montreal went with Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty before they picked Subban (1 of whom is a D-man). I don't think Nashville and Montreal expected their 2 Norris D-men to become that good.

All I know is that the odds of getting a top franchise player is WAY higher with the first few picks of a draft vs the lower first rounds, 2nd rounds and beyond.

Bang on.

[dbr]

Why does it matter who we draft where? Where was PK drafted? oh yeah.. 2nd round, 43rd overall. Where was Weber drafted? Oh yeah... 2nd round, 49th overall.

You don't need to pick high, you just need to pick smart.

Maybe it's smart, but maybe it's just plain luck. Nashville picked Ryan Suter, Konstantin Glazachev, and Kevin Klein before they picked Shea Weber (2 of whom are D-men); Montreal went with Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty before they picked Subban (1 of whom is a D-man). I don't think Nashville and Montreal expected their 2 Norris D-men to become that good.

All I know is that the odds of getting a top franchise player is WAY higher with the first few picks of a draft vs the lower first rounds, 2nd rounds and beyond.

That's because that's where all the high end forwards are drafted.

Check out this year's Norris voting, three of the top ten vote getters were top five picks and Suter was I think 7th. Meanwhile guys like Keith, Weber, Chara, Subban and Mark Giordano (undrafted) also figure in there.

Then go look at the top twenty forwards in scoring.. twelve guys drafted in the top five excluding Anze Kopitar who was slated to go there.

[mathonwy]

I still take all of my listed d-men in a winner takes all game today ahead of PK.

Never mind all the bullshit....

He's not even the best defenseman bro...

I'd take Shea Weber, Doughty, Keith, Chara, Karlsson and probably Petrangelo over him.

He is in there with Letang though. Top 10 d-man but not in the league...no way

Based on Subban's amazing playoffs last year, I'd definitely put Subban in the top 5 of NHL defensemen.

Weber, Doughty, Keith, Subban, Karlsson.

Subban is miles better than Letang.