The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

[Strangelove]

Skinner gets 8 years 9 million. But keep whining about Matthews and Nylander deals. LOL

Skinner scored 33 more goals last season than 10 Million William

... and 3 more goals than $11.634M Auston.

BTW those guys signed 5 year deals, compare that to Skinner's rumoured 8 year deal.

(if Auston got $11.634M on a 5 year, he would have commanded $14M+ on an 8 year)

[SKYO]

Name the asset.

2020 first?

Kapanen?

Johnsson?

Liljegren?

No chance. And no way you think that type of add-on will happen with a player on any other team.

Blackhawks Bickell trade added Teravainen

Blackhawks moving Hossa added Vinnie Hinostroza, plus multiple fringe players in a bigger deal.

Panthers Bolland trade added Lawson Crouse (was an 11th overall pick).

RedWings Datsyuk trade added 1st round pick #16 overall.

[BigTuna]

Name the asset.

2020 first?

Kapanen?

Johnsson?

Liljegren?

No chance. And no way you think that type of add-on will happen with a player on any other team.

Blackhawks Bickell trade added Teravainen

Blackhawks moving Hossa added Vinnie Hinostroza, plus multiple fringe players in a bigger deal.

Panthers Bolland trade added Lawson Crouse (was an 11th overall pick).

RedWings Datsyuk trade added 1st round pick #16 overall.

Zaitsev isn't like those at all. He's 27 year-old RH D who had a very good playoffs.

[Strangelove]

Zaitsev isn't like those at all. He's 27 year-old RH D who had a very good playoffs.

Oh so that's why Leaf fans shat on him so much that he demanded a trade!

[Strangelove]

Marner and Dubas negotiations.

[BigTuna]

You don't get it. Pay your young franchise stars a lot. Don't give a Skinner 9 million for 8 yrears.
Toronto's issue is clearly Lou's contract. It's not a #1 franchise C who's 21 getting a massive deal.

Zaitsev and Marleau are the issues. Combined they are making as much as Tavares.

[Strangelove]

You don't get it. Pay your young franchise stars a lot. Don't give a Skinner 9 million for 8 yrears.

You don't get it, 8 UFA years bought vs 1.

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Matthews/Marner is going to demand $16M x 8 five years from now.

[BigTuna]

You don't get it. Pay your young franchise stars a lot. Don't give a Skinner 9 million for 8 yrears.

You don't get it, 8 UFA years bought vs 1.

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But Skinner is 27 and his career high is 63 points AND he has major concussion issues. Remember when you went on about Nylander having 1?

Ok, you bought Skinner's UFA years, but you're going to have to buy him out. LOL It's awful. He won't last till 35.

Nylander has hit 61 points twice and is 22.

[Strangelove]

You don't get it. Pay your young franchise stars a lot. Don't give a Skinner 9 million for 8 yrears.

You don't get it, 8 UFA years bought vs 1.

viewtopic.php?p=343358#p343358

But Skinner is 27 and his career high is 63 points AND he has major concussion issues. Remember when you went on about Nylander having 1?

Ok, you bought Skinner's UFA years, but you're going to have to buy him out. LOL It's awful. He won't last till 35.

Matthews/Marner is going to demand $16M x 8 five years from now.

Skinner will be 34 when the contract is done... unless you think Sabres will be a playoff team?

Tavares will be 34 when his contract is up...

[BigTuna]

You don't get it. Pay your young franchise stars a lot. Don't give a Skinner 9 million for 8 yrears.

You don't get it, 8 UFA years bought vs 1.

viewtopic.php?p=343358#p343358

But Skinner is 27 and his career high is 63 points AND he has major concussion issues. Remember when you went on about Nylander having 1?

Ok, you bought Skinner's UFA years, but you're going to have to buy him out. LOL It's awful. He won't last till 35.

Matthews/Marner is going to demand $16M x 8 five years from now.

And Buffalo will have traded Skinner by then.

cap is going up you are aware?

[Strangelove]

cap is going up you are aware?

Well if the cap is going up, Skinner's contract will look better and better

... while Matthews/Marner/Nylander's asks will get high and higher.

[Strangelove]

All this concussion talk... phhtt... Skinner has missed a grand total of 3 games in the last 4 seasons.

(Matthews has missed 34 games over the past 3 seasons)

And all this 63 points is his highest point total talk... $11.634M Matthews highest point total is 73 points.

[Strangelove]

Zaitsev and Marleau are the issues.

EXACTLY... you have to attach assets to move "issues"...

[Meds]

Yeah. If Nylander bounces back to even 55 points next year he's gonna look like a steal next to Skinner. It's not even close.

Marner put up 31 more points than Skinner. He's 22 and Skinner is 27. Skinner has peaked, he's not going to get any better, with better linemates he might score another 7-10 points, so if you think Marner's agent is going to be OK with his guy signing for only $2M more than Skinner with that many more years to improve you're dreaming. Marner's ask just went up to $13M.

Boeser's ask probably just went to $9.5M if we want long term.

[Strangelove]

Marner's ask just went up to $13M.

On an 8 year contract?

Remember, he'll prolly sign a 5 year contract so Leaves can keep the AAV down (like Matthews and Nylander).