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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am If the Canucks lose Edler and replace him with Gardiner or Myers or Zaitsev or a combo of these guys, this team is in a shit heap of trouble. For all the heat Edler gets from some on here he is a legit top pairing guy and the only one on the roster due to Tanev being constantly injured.

He plays some of the toughest 25 minutes in the league. The guy is a horse. He is far and away the second best UFA d man and it isn’t close. I don’t want to see Elmer capitulate on that NMC but would Edler take two years at 7.5 per year? Then re up after the ED? It saves Elmer from himself and Edler gets big bucks and can end his career here.

If Edler walks a bottom five finish is pretty much a lock
During a Dallas game there was an interview with ex-Canuck assistant coach Rick Bowness. Most of it was puff piece reminiscence of life in Vancouver but he commented on a few of the players it was good to see again. The thing he said about Edler was his remarkable strength.

I had noticed in the past some of Edlers hits, but if you really watch you can see him move opponents quietly and efficiently. He is a beast. He never lived up to his early expectations and has always heard footsteps when his back is turned, but he is still the best defender Vancouver has.
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From page 48 of a Minnesota Wild HF thread;
Re: Boeser, I don’t really know if he’s an elite player. His two way game isn’t really there, he doesn’t really drive play, he’s basically a better version of Zucker and I tend to think he gets very overrated by Vancouver fans and to a lesser extent by neutral fans. He’s definitely an upgrade on Zucker, but I don’t think the difference is 12oa in this draft.
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Topper wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:19 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am If the Canucks lose Edler and replace him with Gardiner or Myers or Zaitsev or a combo of these guys, this team is in a shit heap of trouble. For all the heat Edler gets from some on here he is a legit top pairing guy and the only one on the roster due to Tanev being constantly injured.

He plays some of the toughest 25 minutes in the league. The guy is a horse. He is far and away the second best UFA d man and it isn’t close. I don’t want to see Elmer capitulate on that NMC but would Edler take two years at 7.5 per year? Then re up after the ED? It saves Elmer from himself and Edler gets big bucks and can end his career here.

If Edler walks a bottom five finish is pretty much a lock
During a Dallas game there was an interview with ex-Canuck assistant coach Rick Bowness. Most of it was puff piece reminiscence of life in Vancouver but he commented on a few of the players it was good to see again. The thing he said about Edler was his remarkable strength.

I had noticed in the past some of Edlers hits, but if you really watch you can see him move opponents quietly and efficiently. He is a beast. He never lived up to his early expectations and has always heard footsteps when his back is turned, but he is still the best defender Vancouver has.
All very true, Edler is the best canucks dman, a difference maker.

However we could very well get Tryamkin back in a year

Our left D would be pretty solid then
Edler? w/NTC.
Hughes
Tryamkin
Hutton
Juolevi

DEPTH:
Sautner
Brisebois
Teves

So unless we plan on moving a lefty to RD, it could get pretty crowded.
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I didn't say the Canucks could not do without, my point was that many don't see, even with his slowing down, how much Edler does for the team.
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Topper wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:12 pm I didn't say the Canucks could not do without, my point was that many don't see, even with his slowing down, how much Edler does for the team.
I've been one of Edler's biggest detractors around these parts for years, but the past two years I've seen what he does, and anyone who is on the fence about it need look no further than our record this year with him vs without him.
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Topper wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:19 am He never lived up to his early expectations and has always heard footsteps when his back is turned, but he is still the best defender Vancouver has.
Yep.
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Keep Edler, hes the locker rooms Elder statesman like Chara is to the Bruins. Well liked in the room but more importantly is an example of professionalism, dedication, preparation, discipline etc. The less you have of that presence in the room the more the kids are getting all Edmonton Taylor Hall on ya
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RoyalDude wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:12 am Keep Edler, hes the locker rooms Elder statesman like Chara is to the Bruins. Well liked in the room but more importantly is an example of professionalism, dedication, preparation, discipline etc. The less you have of that presence in the room the more the kids are getting all Edmonton Taylor Hall on ya
I don't think anyone is suggesting they would rather see Edler walk, they just don't want Jimbo to go all Sutter Stupid with the contract negotiation.
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Hockey Widow wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:25 am
theman wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:58 am I was thinking 14m over 2 years, or 19m over 3 with NMC for first 2 and NTC for final year. Something along those lines. Edler has to realize that for the good of the franchise, he needs to be exposed for the expansion draft. Perhaps go as high as 21m over 3, with the movement protection listed above?
Problem is that trade protection expires June 30th. So if he has a 3-4 year deal and the second year has a NMC he needs to be protected because it is not an expiring contract. So if he wants more than two years it’s a NTC after year one.

His fear obviously is that Seattle would select him. Edler feels he has at least 4 more years and wants that final contract with the security of not having to move. We can’t promise to re-sign him after the expansion draft, it’s unrealistic and he knows it. His play could deteriorate, he could be injured, Benning could be gone, he could just not fit moving forward.

As the summer moves along he and his wife will become more comfortable with the idea of moving on. If someone offers 3-4 years at the coin he wants with a full NMC he should take it.
Edler's other problem stems from no other GM wanting to give him 3 years with a NMC either. Edler's agent should realize that the Canucks will re-sign Edler in 2 years, if he still has game. And right now, we can over-pay him for the next 2 years. Once the emotions are removed, it seems pretty obvious that a 2 year deal is all that he can be offered.

Perfect World - Edler signs for 2 years, $7mil/per, then re-signs for 2 years at $3mil/per.

Perfect Disaster - Edler signs for 3 years, $6mil/per with full NMC. In year 3, he starts to suck, we lose a top 4 D-man in the expansion, and we also have cap issues as Hughes and Petterson are both signing their new contracts, so we lose another player. No thanks to the Perfect Disaster option.
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I think we might have to go 2 years, $16M contract for Edler here folks.
$8M x 2.

So basically $5.3M x 3 squished into 2 years, thereby he makes mad looch, gets his dough to help retire and we don't have to protect him in the Seattle expansion draft, we can afford it thanks to Petey and Hughes on their lovely ELC's - enjoy it folks it'll only last two more years then MASSIVE PAYDAYS awaits, also why I think we should pay a lot for a two year contracts to some high scoring vets.

And we can only afford to do this thanks to our owners, you racists berry pickin' hatin posters ha.
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SKYO wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:50 pm I think we might have to go 2 years, $16M contract for Edler here folks.
$8M x 2.

So basically $5.3M x 3 squished into 2 years, thereby he makes mad looch, gets his dough to help retire and we don't have to protect him in the Seattle expansion draft, we can afford it thanks to Petey and Hughes on their lovely ELC's - enjoy it folks it'll only last two more years then MASSIVE PAYDAYS awaits, also why I think we should pay a lot for a two year contracts to some high scoring vets.

And we can only afford to do this thanks to our owners, you racists berry pickin' hatin posters ha.
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Weaponize cap space and save a dman vs Seattle - while keeping our best dman in the process - no brainer if you rich & got mad cap space thanks to drafting our future CORE on ELC's, that's how it's done son.
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SKYO wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:50 pm I think we might have to go 2 years, $16M contract for Edler here folks.
$8M x 2.

So basically $5.3M x 3 squished into 2 years, thereby he makes mad looch, gets his dough to help retire and we don't have to protect him in the Seattle expansion draft, we can afford it thanks to Petey and Hughes on their lovely ELC's - enjoy it folks it'll only last two more years then MASSIVE PAYDAYS awaits, also why I think we should pay a lot for a two year contracts to some high scoring vets.

And we can only afford to do this thanks to our owners, you racists berry pickin' hatin posters ha.
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Will Ben Hutton get a new contract with the Canucks?
Does he deserve a raise?
Will he play for the same?
Arbitration?
Negotiate to / for, trade?

Whatever happens, doubt he can use>>>Image <<< on his resume again...
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