Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:07 pm
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:51 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:56 am
"name calling, whataboutery and fake news"
So this is your logic:
"Because a lie has been spread far and wide that makes it okay to consider said lie a fact."
OMG you're about as twisted as it gets my brown friend!
52 % of Americans believe trump to be a racist for the things he has said and done. Who am I to argue with a poll that I agree with?
Oh you could question the poll and maybe find a different one to argue he’s not in an attempt to put the toothpaste back in the tube? But whatever have fun with that.
Not surprised you missed the point (again).
If half the public (Dem half in this case) say Donny is a racist
... that doesn't make it a "fact" he's a racist.
Guess you never heard of political lies my propaganda-swallowing friend.
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:51 pm
As for paraphrasing Don Lemon, putting words into people mouths is a neat trick but how valid is your paraphrase?
All I’m saying is one could just as easily
Paraphrase lemon as saying that calling blacks stupid brings back uncomfortable images from when slavery was a thing.
Let's say you're right... why is Lemon bringing it up in that particular brief conversation?
Answer: He's a race-card-playing moron.
Not surprised you defend the intelligence of morons AOC and Lemon.
Birds of a feather flock together.
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:51 pm
And finally really? You Don’t like my history lesson, fair enough, but slave owners were Christian and gentlemen, half the singers of the Declaration of Independence that claimed that all men were created equal were slave owners and they had Christian rationalizations for owning slaves and one of those rationalizations was that blacks were dumb uncivilized and not entitled to the “all men are created equal guarantee.
THAT'S your response to proof Christians initiated and organized the abolitionist movement?
Another shitty "history lesson"??
No I get it, you’re saying that just because 150 million people think he is racist doesn’t make him a racist.
You’re right too in a black and white world (hah)
But 150 million people think he is a racist from the constant racist remarks and Faux pas (‘s) on Twitter.
Whether you like it or not the constant twitter statements Are convincing a lot of people.
Why is Lemon playing the race card? Meh, cause he’s black and he’s always got that ace card up his sleeve.
You’re crying foul because trump got burned in the court of public opinion for heckling Lemon and the Democrat debates? All is fair in love and war. If trump wasn’t a racist he might have thought twice about using language against a black man that can be so easily turned.
I though you said this trump was smart?
Oh pulease no one is arguing that the abolitionist movement wasn’t led by Christians. I agree with that statement you are correct. If it wasn’t for the abolitionists and good Christian fellowship, freedom for the slaves would have taken longer.
But it does t change the fact that slavery as an institution used the argument that black men were a lower order of human and that it was natural law that made slavery proper and right in the eyes of God.
Go look it up if you don’t believe me
“Roll Jordan Roll”
https://www.amazon.com/Roll-Jordan-Worl ... 0394716523
Publisher's Summary
Published in 1974, Roll, Jordan, Roll is American historian Eugene Genovese's epic study of slavery in the United States in the late 18th and 19th centuries. It provides a nuanced understanding of the relationship between master and slave.
Slave owners saw it as their duty to limit slaves' freedoms for their own good, as a father might deal with his children.