2019 offseason

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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by dangler » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:18 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:39 am
dangler wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:51 am
You think it's quiet now??!!
Wait til next year,like diehard says the club has blown their budget,won't be much happening in UFA market for Canucks, not a bad thing though.
We'll all be talking about their playoff success!!
I wouldn’t say that, a lot of prospects will be kicking at the door to get in:

Podkozlin - I predict he bolts the K after 1
Hoglander - if he doesn’t make it this season
Lockwood - a determined kid, Loyal to Van
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Tryamkin - returns, K contract over
Madden - wanted to leave school this year
Juolevi - if not this year
Gadjovich - adjusted to the pro game
Lind - adjusted to the pro game

Trades

Sutter dealt? Gaudette 3rd live centre
Markstrom or Demko dealt?
Tanev dealt?

All kinds of action next summer
Those will all be training camp and tdd, I can't see much UFA action,the money coming off the books will go towards new contracts.
All good though,I think they went a long ways this draft in securing adequate depth for the future.
Tanev getting dealt at tdd will hinge on whether they are poised for the playoffs,Sutter ideally should be dealt now to make way for Gaudette but unlikely to happen until tdd due to last seasons injuries.
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:22 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:15 am
RoyalDude wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:11 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:41 am
It’ll me more interesting next summer when the new GM gets to put his stamp on the team.
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:36 am

It’s not my dream. It’s reality. No playoffs = no extension
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:45 am

I predict the Canucks will be making a serious push for the playoffs, they may not sneak in, end up with the 14th’ish lottery pick. Not enough to fire Benning cause treams trajectory and outlook looks just way to good. We keep your much ballyhooed 2020 lottery pick and Benning keeps his job. Then in 2021 we make the playoffs with a great young core and the Lightning get our 20th overall pick but we recoup the 2021 first trading one of Markstrom or Demko prior to expansion draft. Winner, winner chicken dinner
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Strangelove » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:41 am
It’ll me more interesting next summer when the new GM gets to put his stamp on the team.
We know you hate GMJB and dream of him getting fired, no need to post it 5 times per day...
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by SKYO » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:29 pm

A new GM would probably ship off Eriksson + Virtanen for a couple picks.

Move Baertschi for a pick, to clear the clutter and cap space, while gaining some picks.

And then sign Dzingle.
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Strangelove » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:50 pm

SKYO wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:29 pm
A new GM would probably ship off Eriksson + Virtanen for a couple picks.

Move Baertschi for a pick, to clear the clutter and cap space, while gaining some picks.

And then sign Dzingle.
A new GM might. GMJB might.
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:57 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:20 pm


We know you hate most of GMJB’s early work and it was atrocious for sure. Most intelligent people could see him getting fired if he missed the playoffs five years in a row. You need to post it once in a while for the cheerleaders that are oblivious to reality
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Madcombinepilot » Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:25 pm

SKYO wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:29 pm
A new GM would probably ship off Eriksson + Virtanen for a couple picks.

Move Baertschi for a pick, to clear the clutter and cap space, while gaining some picks.

And then sign Dzingle.
I don't see why your so horny to move Virtanen. He made strides last year, why ship him?? That is kinda silly.

If Jimbro could move Ericksson, Baertschi and Sutter, he probably would.. to think that Jimmy is just sitting around with Fingers up his ass and not doing anything and everything to make the team better is also kinda silly...

So I am guessing nobody wants them.

Kinda like us.
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:33 pm

Loui will be tough to move but i would think brandon sutter could be a fairly decent add for a team if we retain a mill or so.

Baertchi wont draw anyones interest at that price
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Meds » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:04 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:45 am
I predict the Canucks will be making a serious push for the playoffs, they may not sneak in, end up with the 14th’ish lottery pick. Not enough to fire Benning cause treams trajectory and outlook looks just way to good. We keep your much ballyhooed 2020 lottery pick and Benning keeps his job. Then in 2021 we make the playoffs with a great young core and the Lightning get our 20th overall pick but we recoup the 2021 first trading one of Markstrom or Demko prior to expansion draft. Winner, winner chicken dinner
If that scenario plays out, where we finish 1 point outside the dance and end up with the 14th(ish) pick, then frankly you are right, it is not enough to fire Benning. It is, however, enough to simply not renew him and let him go at the end of his contract.

He has definitely put the team on the right trajectory, and I honestly think it will show bad form on the part of Aquabros if they fire him since they were the ones who held up the rebuild when Elmer took the job. Considering what he has done since it was officially a rebuild the work has been solid and the turnaround pretty decent.

Personally I would give him one more year.....unless Miller and Benn are disasters, and Pearson shits out the bottom like he did in LA and Pittsburgh.

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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by micky107 » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:52 pm

If Virtanen makes the opening game squad this year, I hope someone tells him, every freakin shift you take dictates your future.
The same can be said of Guatette to a tadl lesser degree.
And not just on this team, but in this league.
If they both kick ass, fat can be cut anon.
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by ukcanuck » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:18 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:57 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:20 pm


We know you hate most of GMJB’s early work and it was atrocious for sure. Most intelligent people could see him getting fired if he missed the playoffs five years in a row. You need to post it once in a while for the cheerleaders that are oblivious to reality
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Seems a few pundits in the media and hockey nuts on you tube agree with you (who are these people and do they all live in their moms basement?)

I’m not sure I do though. Okay yeah, while the team had nothing but bare cupboards left by your man Gillis, the the then new GM Benning had to try to get some help with free agents and possibly over paid one or two in the process (in hindsight.)

However, I don’t see how it’s particularly hurt the team here and now. They needed a couple of D and a forward and they went and got them and now they are near the cap. So what?

They are allowed to be at the cap. They have a team that is about as good as it’s going to get at this point and any free agents left out there may or may not be any better.

So lets have at her and see what we got after 80 games.

Chances are pretty good that the team will be better than the pundits predict and definitely better than you will admit.

See ya in the playoffs!

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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:08 am

ukcanuck wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:18 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:57 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:20 pm


We know you hate most of GMJB’s early work and it was atrocious for sure. Most intelligent people could see him getting fired if he missed the playoffs five years in a row. You need to post it once in a while for the cheerleaders that are oblivious to reality
Fixed for truth and accuracy
Seems a few pundits in the media and hockey nuts on you tube agree with you (who are these people and do they all live in their moms basement?)

I’m not sure I do though. Okay yeah, while the team had nothing but bare cupboards left by your man Gillis, the the then new GM Benning had to try to get some help with free agents and possibly over paid one or two in the process (in hindsight.)

However, I don’t see how it’s particularly hurt the team here and now. They needed a couple of D and a forward and they went and got them and now they are near the cap. So what?

They are allowed to be at the cap. They have a team that is about as good as it’s going to get at this point and any free agents left out there may or may not be any better.

So lets have at her and see what we got after 80 games.

Chances are pretty good that the team will be better than the pundits predict and definitely better than you will admit.

See ya in the playoffs!
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Re: 2019 offseason

Post by Hockey Widow » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am

Blob is right in some respects. A fifth straight year with no playoff revenue won’t be a good look for Benning. But it’s going to be how far off the mark they are that makes the difference I think. It won’t be black and white; playoffs=extension, missing =no new deal.

A strong season with a competitive team not looking outclassed is one thing. A team that looks outclassed, outworked and no heart, well that’s a recipe for hiring a new GM.

Benning has one card to play. The Trevor Linden card. Rightly or wrongly he can default to, well Trevor and I saw the first few years differently and I’ve only had a season or two to really put my stamp on the team. And he will subtly play that card. In fact the narrative is already oozing out in drabs and dribbles. Not saying I agree or disagree.

Benning’s drafting we know has been superior to any other GM we have had and it’s starting to show in spades. Next season we will graduate a few more and the next year could be a bonanza of players ready for the pro game. My point, the future looks strong. If this season brings back an enthusiastic fan base, if the hockey is fun to watch, if the young core begins to lead more, if we are competitive in most games, if we stay relevant and in the playoff race until the end, well Benning will be back.

But if it all looks to be an illusion and we take backward steps then ya, Benning is done.
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