Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
I wonder if his source sprung for more than his share of shots at the edge of the world tooRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
Hi Rikster,rikster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:05 amHi DieHard...
As someone who isn't a fan of UFA day, gotta admit that for the most part the dollars handed out so far around the league have been reasonable when you consider that the back half of most of those contracts will be paid from the new TV deal and at least 1 expansion fee....
Most will be similar to the Myers deal where they are heavily front end loaded and lock out protected and will give more reason to have the buyout provisions changed in the next CBA....
As I said before, it benefits both the NHL and the NHLPA so can't see why anyone would oppose eliminating the buyout from cap calculations with certain conditions...
And the Timo Meier RFA signing seems like a good deal and good news for the Canucks regarding the Boeser situation....
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I agree, the deals today were for fewer dollars than most expected, aside from the Bobrovsky and perhaps the Panarin deals that is. There was the Brandon Tanev deal that seems insane as well, but in general they were relatively reasonable.
I do think there will be some changes to a few things in the next CBA - escrow, buyouts and signing bonuses will be the major items for the league and NHLPA to fight over. I’d be fine with some sort of release valve for teams with 1 buyout a year permitted but I’m not sure Bettman would. It would be smart of the league to give something relatively minor like this as a bone players but he’s never been the most logical negotiator.
As for Meier, he had a great season and playoffs last year and got $6 million for 4 years. Ideally Boeser’s deal is 5-6 years, but if not then I would take a $6 million AAV as they have very comparable counting stats so should be around the same dollar value.
Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
The team can go 10% over the cap in the summer so if true this likely would have already been signed. True it may hurt Jimbo’s leverage in getting rid of salary if another team knows he has no choice, but I’m not sure that would matter to him too much.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
I doubt it’s true but you never know these days.
Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
I don't get how Schenn had to go due to cap constraints. I'm not saying that's what you are insinuating here, but to me the guy was great in a bottom pairing role for the last 20 games, and how do we not bring him back at $700K?Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:36 am https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/1 ... fantenberg
Fantenberg acquired by Calgary at the TDD. Now a Canuck. Another Swede, lefty, one year deal, no terms yet.
Pouliot gone, Hutton gone, Schenn gone, cap crunch. Fantenberg it is.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
Yeah definitely take it with a grain of salt, but found it interesting no other team snapped him up today, something to keep an eye on though.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:11 pmThe team can go 10% over the cap in the summer so if true this likely would have already been signed. True it may hurt Jimbo’s leverage in getting rid of salary if another team knows he has no choice, but I’m not sure that would matter to him too much.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
I doubt it’s true but you never know these days.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
I think they would have brought him back for 700k, I think schenn is chasing a cup.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:57 pmI don't get how Schenn had to go due to cap constraints. I'm not saying that's what you are insinuating here, but to me the guy was great in a bottom pairing role for the last 20 games, and how do we not bring him back at $700K?Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:36 am https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/1 ... fantenberg
Fantenberg acquired by Calgary at the TDD. Now a Canuck. Another Swede, lefty, one year deal, no terms yet.
Pouliot gone, Hutton gone, Schenn gone, cap crunch. Fantenberg it is.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
I actually think 4 X 4 is too much for Ferkland but not awful. We need his element on line 3 or maybe even 2. He can move around the lineup too.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:59 pmYeah definitely take it with a grain of salt, but found it interesting no other team snapped him up today, something to keep an eye on though.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:11 pmThe team can go 10% over the cap in the summer so if true this likely would have already been signed. True it may hurt Jimbo’s leverage in getting rid of salary if another team knows he has no choice, but I’m not sure that would matter to him too much.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
I doubt it’s true but you never know these days.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
Makes me think he yas a deal in place somewhere already just waiting on a team to make room.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:59 pmYeah definitely take it with a grain of salt, but found it interesting no other team snapped him up today, something to keep an eye on though.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:11 pmThe team can go 10% over the cap in the summer so if true this likely would have already been signed. True it may hurt Jimbo’s leverage in getting rid of salary if another team knows he has no choice, but I’m not sure that would matter to him too much.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
I doubt it’s true but you never know these days.
Buddy the source could be bang on
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
I’d be fine with it if true, but it’s extremely hard to believe. You want to sign him you do it and then figure out the money later. Brock can’t get an offer sheet and there’s nobody else to worry about losing so there’s no major downside to sign Ferland now. The money is there, just means that a couple of Loui/Schaller/Gaudette would start in Utica or waiver to another team, and likely one or two of Goldy, Leivo or Motte wouldn’t be signed.Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:13 pmMakes me think he yas a deal in place somewhere already just waiting on a team to make room.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:59 pmYeah definitely take it with a grain of salt, but found it interesting no other team snapped him up today, something to keep an eye on though.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:11 pmThe team can go 10% over the cap in the summer so if true this likely would have already been signed. True it may hurt Jimbo’s leverage in getting rid of salary if another team knows he has no choice, but I’m not sure that would matter to him too much.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
I doubt it’s true but you never know these days.
Buddy the source could be bang on
Personally I’d rather go after Gusev from Vegas if the ask isn’t too crazy, as he could be a very good scoring wing right away. Ferland would be ok too but I prefer skilled players and this team doesn’t have enough of them yet.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
I liked Schenn too and would have liked to seen him comeback. I think it just came down to numbers in our roster space. We already have a right shot D in BullDawg Biega under contract, who's a good 6th-8th D-man. It was just easier to keep the guy we already have.
Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
Yup. Way crazy he wasn't scooped today. In fact, impossible. Probably talking to us but not necessarily only us.Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:13 pmMakes me think he yas a deal in place somewhere already just waiting on a team to make room.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:59 pmYeah definitely take it with a grain of salt, but found it interesting no other team snapped him up today, something to keep an eye on though.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:11 pmThe team can go 10% over the cap in the summer so if true this likely would have already been signed. True it may hurt Jimbo’s leverage in getting rid of salary if another team knows he has no choice, but I’m not sure that would matter to him too much.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:01 pm A poster on reddit swears up and down ferland is coming here on a 4x4 contract, space just needs to be cleared. Says he has a source (sounded like it’s player or agent related not canuck front office related), take it for what it’s worth, but at 4x4 I’d love ferland.
I doubt it’s true but you never know these days.
Buddy the source could be bang on
Toughens up the line-up yet has some point production too. Really good at finding guys in the open but can let it rip too.
Really a pretty good sniper in his own rights. Decent attendance. 4/4 doesn't scare me at all.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
Schenn >> Biega.Todd Bersnoozi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:57 pmI liked Schenn too and would have liked to seen him comeback. I think it just came down to numbers in our roster space. We already have a right shot D in BullDawg Biega under contract, who's a good 6th-8th D-man. It was just easier to keep the guy we already have.
Send Biega to Utica.
Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
Yeah, don't get me wrong, the Norwegian wizard midget is a fantastic player, and tends to become a fan favourite on the teams he plays for, but he is 32 years old. I could see giving him a two or perhaps even three year contract, but five years with that price tag?
Mmmmmmmmm.... no. Way too long term.
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Re: Free agent FRENZY thread. July 1, 2019
micky107 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:46 pm Goal tender Robin Lehner signs with Chicago.
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1793441
Completely bizarre.
Lehner, who won Jennings and Masterton this year and was nominated for Vezina, wanted to stay with the Islanders, and was willing to discuss term and amount, but then found out they had already decided to sign Varlamov, so agreed to a one year deal with Chicago instead.
So, you have a goalie who has definitely had some warts (bipolar and substance abuse issues), but is now on the wagon and taking his Mëds and as a result has had his best season ever, winning two individual awards and being nominated for a third, and you decide "nah, I like the Avalanche's goal tending better..."
There is no question in my mind that Lehner is the better goalie of the two, and he would almost certainly have agreed to whatever they gave Varlamov. He knows he arrived in the organisation as damaged goods. They took a chance on him, helped him with rehab et al, he now plays the best hockey he ever has, he was grateful and wanted to stay. I'm sure he'd agreed to a reasonable offer. Really blows my mind.
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