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And I’m not sure Milan protects anyone physically. But he might be useful in the playoffs as once again it turns into a thug fest in the scf.
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I'm kinda glad you are not the GMSKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:28 pm2021/22 this team barely has anyone under contract.Tciso wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:11 pm The only year that counts is 2021, when Hughes and the Alien need new contracts. Loui is only $4mil on buy-out at that point. Sucks, but still an option if we need that last few pennies. Look, they both suck, but Looch is not worth an extra year of cap hell for whatever slight improvement he might be over Loui.
Lucic and Horvat will have 2 yrs left.
Beags/Roussel last year on contracts perfect TDD trade bait.
And that's it lol for right now until Boeser signs his 6+ yr contract.
lol sheesh get to the fucking point.Tciso wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:20 amI'm kinda glad you are not the GMSKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:28 pm2021/22 this team barely has anyone under contract.Tciso wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:11 pm The only year that counts is 2021, when Hughes and the Alien need new contracts. Loui is only $4mil on buy-out at that point. Sucks, but still an option if we need that last few pennies. Look, they both suck, but Looch is not worth an extra year of cap hell for whatever slight improvement he might be over Loui.
Lucic and Horvat will have 2 yrs left.
Beags/Roussel last year on contracts perfect TDD trade bait.
And that's it lol for right now until Boeser signs his 6+ yr contract.
It should be very safe to assume that we will also have to fill out the rest of the line-up too.
I don't know how it will play out, but if you look ahead a few years, we do have some other players who should be getting raises (and yes, a few getting the boot).
It would be quite easy for the Canucks to be in cap hell in 2021/22, similar to where Tarana is today (having to shed their depth players), or Edmonton.
Neither Lucic or Ericksson are worth their contracts, and in 3 years, odds are neither will even be legit NHLers.
Trading for Lucic doesn't improve us on the ice.
He's not a make/break player for our playoff chances next year.
In fact, we likely lose more games with him than Loui.
Throw in the additional cap headache for 2022/23 he provides, and I can see no reason to take Lucic.
To be honest, if Looch was a UFA, and wanted to sign a 2 year deal at $2mil/per, I still don't think we want him.
We are right full of 3rd liners, and our younger ones need the playing time over whatever Looch brings to the ice.
The only part of the Eriksson contract that concerns me is the final year.
This guy gets it.Tciso wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:20 amI'm kinda glad you are not the GMSKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:28 pm2021/22 this team barely has anyone under contract.Tciso wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:11 pm The only year that counts is 2021, when Hughes and the Alien need new contracts. Loui is only $4mil on buy-out at that point. Sucks, but still an option if we need that last few pennies. Look, they both suck, but Looch is not worth an extra year of cap hell for whatever slight improvement he might be over Loui.
Lucic and Horvat will have 2 yrs left.
Beags/Roussel last year on contracts perfect TDD trade bait.
And that's it lol for right now until Boeser signs his 6+ yr contract.
It should be very safe to assume that we will also have to fill out the rest of the line-up too. I don't know how it will play out, but if you look ahead a few years, we do have some other players who should be getting raises (and yes, a few getting the boot). It would be quite easy for the Canucks to be in cap hell in 2021/22, similar to where Tarana is today (having to shed their depth players), or Edmonton. Neither Lucic or Ericksson are worth their contracts, and in 3 years, odds are neither will even be legit NHLers. Trading for Lucic doesn't improve us on the ice. He's not a make/break player for our playoff chances next year. In fact, we likely lose more games with him than Loui. Throw in the additional cap headache for 2022/23 he provides, and I can see no reason to take Lucic. To be honest, if Looch was a UFA, and wanted to sign a 2 year deal at $2mil/per, I still don't think we want him. We are right full of 3rd liners, and our younger ones need the playing time over whatever Looch brings to the ice.
Neither.
Thing is moving Eriksson and his 3 years x $6M contract won't be as easy as you think, regardless of his total $9M salary after his bonus is paid.
There is no such thing as an "immovable contract".SKYO wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:01 pmThing is moving Eriksson and his 3 years x $6M contract won't be as easy as you think, regardless of his total $9M salary after his bonus is paid.
There are many other easier players to digest for a cap floor team and many other options for em while getting an asset back for taking on other teams junk, I mean contract.
Knights (Eakin, Miller), Tampa (callahan, johnson, palat, miller), Leaves (marleau, zaitsev), Oilers (looch), Pens (kessel), Caps, Wild, Panthers (hoffman), Flames, Kings all need to shed cap and have better players than Eriksson to offer with shorter term in most cases.
It is why the swap of LE for ML is the most logical solution for Edm & Van at this point, two immovable contracts for each other.
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Albeit true - that no contract is truly immovable - some are just so damn hard to move without giving up a stupid amount of asset(s) you might as well call it immovable.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:25 pm There is no such thing as an "immovable contract".
The idea of moving Eriksson seems to be to "unload a bad contract".
So why on God's semi-green earth would you want a much worse contract coming back!
Because that 'one extra year' contract for Looch of the same cap hit as mr invisible Eriksson is a far better fit for this skinny team that doesn't have much push back that is lacking assholes (I recall that you used to love to try find for this pushover squad), as the Getzlafs etc all slapped around this puny team, injuring everyone.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:25 pm So why on God's semi-green earth would you want a much worse contract coming back!
Darling(canes) can't see LE waiving his NTC to go there.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:25 pm In our case we should only be concerned with the final year of Loui's contract.
So we can wait two more years or move him now with a 2-year "bad contract" coming back?
(Darling, Perry, Sekera, Phaneuf, etc)
Or attach a small asset (way smaller than what you suggest) and take no bad contract back.
With Eriksson not helping the team win, and JB's job on the line I don't see a situation where we keep this boat anchor of a contract for another two years.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:25 pm Trading Loui immediately seems like an unnecessary panic move.
And swapping him for Lucic seems like out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-fire madness.
It's a good point Skyo. As it sits right now, there are very few on the team that enjoy, or even willing to partake, in the physicalSKYO wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:01 pm
The only players on this team with any jam is Virtanen and Motte + injured Roussel.
Every team needs balance of skill, size, aggression and speed, Lucic fills that hole on the Canucks with his size and aggression, especially with Roussel out till Xmas at best & won't be the same till 2020 I bet.
https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/n ... ne-roussel