2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

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Diehard1 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:06 pm I heard it was a 3rd plus Kylington, which would have also been nice. Who knows. I've made my thoughts on the NTC clear, Jimbo and team went about it about as incorrectly as can be so it was obvious he was going to block a trade - don't really want to rehash that though.

Tanev I think a 2nd plus a prospect would be decent, depending on how the team looks before the draft. If we trade for Zaitsev for example, and I think that would be a terrible pickup personally, he's also a RHD so Tanev may become expendable. With Stecher, Tanev, Biega, maybe Rafferty and another addition in FA/trade the right side gets a bit tight.
I think the Zaitsev ship has sailed personally, Toronto thinks he's awesome and won't add any assets to move him.
If that's the case I'd offersheet Kapanen/Johnsson July 1st.....so yes Toronto will have add an asset to move Zaitsev.
Marner maybe Lou L in NYI will mastermind an offersheet as well, the full 11.5M per where tdot will match.

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For the 2nd round to reiterate, I hope we take a dman - notably the righty Korczakian one.
Check his scouting report: https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/player/ka ... zak/31882/
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I don’t know who the fuck we are drafting but he better be good

Thoughts?
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Richardstroker69 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:05 pm
Diehard1 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:06 pm
SKYO wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:09 pm
Diehard1 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:04 pm Unfortunately right before the draft is the worst time to trade for picks, they become way more valuable to teams. It's why I've been suggesting trading for picks at the trade deadline when they are thrown around like water and teams like the Wings, Canes, Sabres, Sens all end up with multiple 2nd round picks.
The rumour at the TDD was Edler to the Flames for a 1st + Dube, but the infamous NTC blocked it.

I bet we could get a 2019 2nd + prospect for Tanev though.
I heard it was a 3rd plus Kylington, which would have also been nice. Who knows. I've made my thoughts on the NTC clear, Jimbo and team went about it about as incorrectly as can be so it was obvious he was going to block a trade - don't really want to rehash that though.

Tanev I think a 2nd plus a prospect would be decent, depending on how the team looks before the draft. If we trade for Zaitsev for example, and I think that would be a terrible pickup personally, he's also a RHD so Tanev may become expendable. With Stecher, Tanev, Biega, maybe Rafferty and another addition in FA/trade the right side gets a bit tight.
How did Benning go about it oh wise one
He’s blaming Benning for a Gillis NTC. Let him play in that sandbox. Don’t disturb him
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Just read on twitter that Krebs has torn his ACL during training. Well, he should drop now.
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Diehard1 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:21 pm
RoyalDude wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:51 am This could be one of those drafts where teams have a specific player in mind like Arizona on Hayton and Montreal on Kotkaniemi. Teams lists versus media scribes lists don’t seem to have much in common these days other than the obvious - Hughes and Kakko.

Caulfield goes top 5 cause a team there wants him, not because Button likes him. Cozens doesn’t go top 10 cause teams picking top 10 preferred other prospects.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Caulfield goes top 5, a top 10 team drafts Knight out of need, Podkozlin falls only because he’s Russian and signed to the KHL. Wouldn’t be surprised if Cozens drops because his IQ is questioned. Wouldn’t be surprised if Broberg goes top 10 cause of his raw talent. I think Krebs goes top 10 cause of his Ryan O’Reilly work ethic, he seems to get compared him a lot and O’Reilly is having a heck of a Finals. The Turcotte fall is a mystery, although he is the one player I know the least about. I can see Zegras going high as he is a great skater who’s game gets compared to Pettersson’s. It’s a flavour of the day or so it seems - Caulfield - DeBrincat etc

The Blues are bucking the trend back to size, after the Penguins bucked the trend to speed and skill and size doesn’t matter after their last cup win. Ya just hope your GM and his scouting staff ignore trends like all those analytics fucks like Dubas and the Athletic
Agreed, lets ignore all the analytics like the Canes, Bolts, Bruins, Leaves, Avs and Flames do - after all they all sucked more than the Nucks this year right? The Blues top 6 scoring forwards are all around 6 feet tall so I'm not sure what you're talking about there - Tarasenko, O'Reilly, Schwartz, Perron, Bozak, Schenn. The only big forwards they have are Maroon and Thorburn, neither of whom is in the top 50 playoffs scorers. Their D is big but even more than that they are mobile.

Boston is even smaller with Marchand, Bergeron (under 200 pounds), Pastrnak, DeBrusk, Johnasson, Krug, Krejci. They have Chara, Coyle and healthy scratch Backes as big players, but neither of these teams is big.

Use every advantage you can get, I don't care what it is - analytics, eye test, scouts, etc. Use them all because more information is better.

Still have no idea how the draft will go but I'm getting more and more partial to Seider with what I read, hear and see about him. He looks like he could be a perfect future partner on a #1 pairing with Hughes.
Your lovely “Athletic” posted a chart of the leagues tallest and heaviest teams in the NHL. Your St. Louis Blues sit second in the league in both categories. But hey you keep on with blazing “new” trails, DH. In the mean time everything old is new again
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theman wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:28 am Just read on twitter that Krebs has torn his ACL during training. Well, he should drop now.
Oh that’s not good
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RoyalDude wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:30 am
theman wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:28 am Just read on twitter that Krebs has torn his ACL during training. Well, he should drop now.
Oh that’s not good
Tore his Achilles to be precise.
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The more I look at Buttons list, the less crazy it gets. Put me in the Broberg camp. If we draft him, one of Hutton (traded) or Edler (walks) is as good as gone. Sign Myers for the right side. Stecher, Tanev and Myers on the right. Trade Tanev when RD Woo is close. Hopefully sign Edler and trade Hutton for forward help
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7 x 7 for Tyler Myers. Awesome. May as well sign Wayne Simmonds too for 5 x 5.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 am 7 x 7 for Tyler Myers. Awesome. May as well sign Wayne Simmonds too for 5 x 5.
Could be a hometown discount. His wife is from BC and they live in the Okanagan.
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Draft prospect F Peyton Krebs had surgery for achilles tendon injury yesterday. Even in walking boot, I am hearing he will still fly to Van to meet with #Canucks next week for extended interview. That is a high character move by the kid, I don't think the Canucks expected that.
9:43 AM - 8 Jun 2019
Cool! Still wouldn't pick him now though. :(
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RoyalDude wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:15 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 am 7 x 7 for Tyler Myers. Awesome. May as well sign Wayne Simmonds too for 5 x 5.
Could be a hometown discount. His wife is from BC and they live in the Okanagan.
So 6.75 then.... great.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:19 am
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:15 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 am 7 x 7 for Tyler Myers. Awesome. May as well sign Wayne Simmonds too for 5 x 5.
Could be a hometown discount. His wife is from BC and they live in the Okanagan.
So 6.75 then.... great.
I agree its a potential for a bad contract, but let’s be clear he’s much better than Gudbranson. Also, with seeing the Blues big D, there’s still a place for those types unless your like Diehard and follow the DIY YouTuber, Twitter twat goofballs at the Athletic like JD “fuck Benning depresses the shit out of me” Burke and their obsession with Analytics

With the dumb money being bantied about these days is $7 Million bad for Myers? I’d rather give him $7 million than the soft perimeter player - the IIHF specialist - large ice Nylander. Myers would bring way more value to a playoff team than what your softies - Ehlers and Nylander are providing
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Rather see them continue to build through the draft. Losing Edler and replacing him with Myers is a step backwards. Next years draft is loaded at the top. I’d be flogging Tanev in the next 9 months and seeing if we can’t get another first next year. We are a ways away from being competitive yet.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:44 am Rather see them continue to build through the draft. Losing Edler and replacing him with Myers is a step backwards. Next years draft is loaded at the top. I’d be flogging Tanev in the next 9 months and seeing if we can’t get another first next year. We are a ways away from being competitive yet.
You can’t litter the lineup with 19 year olds Blob. Your not giving up an asset getting a UFA player 4 years younger than Edler. We are still building through the draft, Myers isn’t stopping that

I don’t get the obsession with Karlsson. He’s not trending well. I’m more stressed about spending $11 million on a player for his past efforts who is injury prone and more concerned about his hair more than anything
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