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If he wants to win he probably should leave. This team is a few years away from winning and he is 33.
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Edler's age (33) is the biggest reason why we don't want to burn a protection spot on him. It has nothing to do with his current play or anything like that. It's forecasting based on typical trends. If we had a crystal ball and the Canucks could see that in 3 years Edler was going to be the same player he was this year and give us 70 games, then it's not an issue.
Myers, Gardiner, and Zaitsev, are all at least 3 years younger than Edler. That being said it's not unreasonable to think that Myers and Gardiner will want at least 5 year contracts. With that in mind does it not make more sense to give Edler a 3 year deal with protection that takes him to 36 years old rather than pay more (Myers and Gardiner) and still have to protect a guy who will be under contract until they are 34 or 35?
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If zaitsev sucks as bad as some people say though we could make this trade and have a Luca sbisa situation.Mëds wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:51 amEdler's age (33) is the biggest reason why we don't want to burn a protection spot on him. It has nothing to do with his current play or anything like that. It's forecasting based on typical trends. If we had a crystal ball and the Canucks could see that in 3 years Edler was going to be the same player he was this year and give us 70 games, then it's not an issue.
Myers, Gardiner, and Zaitsev, are all at least 3 years younger than Edler. That being said it's not unreasonable to think that Myers and Gardiner will want at least 5 year contracts. With that in mind does it not make more sense to give Edler a 3 year deal with protection that takes him to 36 years old rather than pay more (Myers and Gardiner) and still have to protect a guy who will be under contract until they are 34 or 35?
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I'd rather edler back than any of gardiner myers or fuckin zaitzev
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Me too but I’m liking Elmer sticking to his guns. I prefer Jett Black Reservoir Dogs Elmer to the guy that was on the job for the first three seasonsUncle dans leg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:33 am I'd rather edler back than any of gardiner myers or fuckin zaitzev
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Agree, but Benning can't yield on the NMC in regards to the expansion draft. Edler must understand that he has to be exposed for the good of the team.Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:33 am I'd rather edler back than any of gardiner myers or fuckin zaitzev
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FREE ZONE
I hope we don't trade for either Zaitsev or Zucker.
Zaitsev is not an upgrade on Hutton, not really.
Zucker, unless things are really being misinterpreted, isn't worth what we're hearing.
I hope we don't trade for either Zaitsev or Zucker.
Zaitsev is not an upgrade on Hutton, not really.
Zucker, unless things are really being misinterpreted, isn't worth what we're hearing.
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Problem is that trade protection expires June 30th. So if he has a 3-4 year deal and the second year has a NMC he needs to be protected because it is not an expiring contract. So if he wants more than two years it’s a NTC after year one.theman wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:58 am I was thinking 14m over 2 years, or 19m over 3 with NMC for first 2 and NTC for final year. Something along those lines. Edler has to realize that for the good of the franchise, he needs to be exposed for the expansion draft. Perhaps go as high as 21m over 3, with the movement protection listed above?
His fear obviously is that Seattle would select him. Edler feels he has at least 4 more years and wants that final contract with the security of not having to move. We can’t promise to re-sign him after the expansion draft, it’s unrealistic and he knows it. His play could deteriorate, he could be injured, Benning could be gone, he could just not fit moving forward.
As the summer moves along he and his wife will become more comfortable with the idea of moving on. If someone offers 3-4 years at the coin he wants with a full NMC he should take it.
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During a Dallas game there was an interview with ex-Canuck assistant coach Rick Bowness. Most of it was puff piece reminiscence of life in Vancouver but he commented on a few of the players it was good to see again. The thing he said about Edler was his remarkable strength.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am If the Canucks lose Edler and replace him with Gardiner or Myers or Zaitsev or a combo of these guys, this team is in a shit heap of trouble. For all the heat Edler gets from some on here he is a legit top pairing guy and the only one on the roster due to Tanev being constantly injured.
He plays some of the toughest 25 minutes in the league. The guy is a horse. He is far and away the second best UFA d man and it isn’t close. I don’t want to see Elmer capitulate on that NMC but would Edler take two years at 7.5 per year? Then re up after the ED? It saves Elmer from himself and Edler gets big bucks and can end his career here.
If Edler walks a bottom five finish is pretty much a lock
I had noticed in the past some of Edlers hits, but if you really watch you can see him move opponents quietly and efficiently. He is a beast. He never lived up to his early expectations and has always heard footsteps when his back is turned, but he is still the best defender Vancouver has.
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From page 48 of a Minnesota Wild HF thread;
Re: Boeser, I don’t really know if he’s an elite player. His two way game isn’t really there, he doesn’t really drive play, he’s basically a better version of Zucker and I tend to think he gets very overrated by Vancouver fans and to a lesser extent by neutral fans. He’s definitely an upgrade on Zucker, but I don’t think the difference is 12oa in this draft.
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All very true, Edler is the best canucks dman, a difference maker.Topper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:19 amDuring a Dallas game there was an interview with ex-Canuck assistant coach Rick Bowness. Most of it was puff piece reminiscence of life in Vancouver but he commented on a few of the players it was good to see again. The thing he said about Edler was his remarkable strength.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am If the Canucks lose Edler and replace him with Gardiner or Myers or Zaitsev or a combo of these guys, this team is in a shit heap of trouble. For all the heat Edler gets from some on here he is a legit top pairing guy and the only one on the roster due to Tanev being constantly injured.
He plays some of the toughest 25 minutes in the league. The guy is a horse. He is far and away the second best UFA d man and it isn’t close. I don’t want to see Elmer capitulate on that NMC but would Edler take two years at 7.5 per year? Then re up after the ED? It saves Elmer from himself and Edler gets big bucks and can end his career here.
If Edler walks a bottom five finish is pretty much a lock
I had noticed in the past some of Edlers hits, but if you really watch you can see him move opponents quietly and efficiently. He is a beast. He never lived up to his early expectations and has always heard footsteps when his back is turned, but he is still the best defender Vancouver has.
However we could very well get Tryamkin back in a year
Our left D would be pretty solid then
Edler? w/NTC.
Hughes
Tryamkin
Hutton
Juolevi
DEPTH:
Sautner
Brisebois
Teves
So unless we plan on moving a lefty to RD, it could get pretty crowded.
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I didn't say the Canucks could not do without, my point was that many don't see, even with his slowing down, how much Edler does for the team.
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I've been one of Edler's biggest detractors around these parts for years, but the past two years I've seen what he does, and anyone who is on the fence about it need look no further than our record this year with him vs without him.
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