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BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:54 am They added a franchise C and you guys are going on about a plug who was a healthy scratch in the playoffs. LOL you don't even want to dicuss the biggest signing any team has made in at least a dozen years. Leo Komorov, 19 points. What a stud!
UMMMMMMM.... you must have missed this post:
Strangelove wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:46 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm
Strangelove wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:41 am That's because Andersen performs well in the regular season (sucks in the post season).

Holtby is the opposite.

And don't forget their 2 best penalty-killing dmen were Polak and Hainsey.

Polak is gonzo with no replacement, and Hainsey succumbed to old age as the season wore on.

Also gone is their best penalty-killing forward Komarov (played centre on their #1 PK unit).

Meanwhile Tampa should be better defensively with a full year of McDonagh

... and Hedman having come into his own defensively down the stretch.

(most folks also expect young Vasilevskiy to continue improving)

Leaves neglecting the defensive side of the game will continue to be their downfall.

Did they learn nothing the last two playoffs? :eh:
LOL at trying to say the leaves are going to miss plugs Komorov and Polak.
We were talking about the Leaves defensive issues, the fact is those 2 were their best PK guys and: Gone.

(Hainsey was also a great PKer for them last year but he died of old age towards the end of the season)

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:20 pm Komorov was actually terrible last year and was not good defensively.
Nope, Komarov had a tough year offensively but was his usual stellar self defensively.

He, Polak, the recently deceased Hainsey, and the only-good-in-the-regular-season Andersen

... were the reasons for Leaves having one of the best regular season PKs in the league.

Of course their PK was the worst in the league post-season cuz Komarov was injured, Hainsey died, and Andy was Andy.


BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:20 pm The leaves did not give up a lot of goals last season. 3rd lowest in the EAst.
Leaves were 11th out of the 16 playoff teams in that category… in the regular season

… and 15th out of those same 16 teams in the playoffs.

Washington was 4th, Tampa 6th in the playoffs.

(other teams tighten up in the playoffs, Leaves are incapable of that)

Leaves gave up more shots than any of the other 16 teams that qualified for the playoffs

… and that trend cost them in the playoffs.

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm Only the leaves could sign the biggest UFA in the entire NHL in at leat a dozen years and a 4th line plug who got 19 points is who they will really miss.
4th line plug?? Actually Komarov has been playing top-6 minutes for the past few seasons.

Leaves brought in top line guy Tavares yes, but they also lost 3 of their top 9 forwards by icetime.

One of those 3 scored 36 goals, one was their best faceoff guy, and the other was by far their best defensive forward.

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm Johnsson is better overall esaily than Komorov.
So Johnsson with his 9 NHL games at 11:42 is going to magically replace one of the best defensive forwards in the league?? :lol:

Seriously, who replaces Komarov as the centre on the #1 PK unit?

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm Leo was a healthy scratch.
That's not true, Komarov missed 5.5 of the Leaves 7 playoff games with an ankle injury.

He declared himself fit for Game 7 but he was overruled by the team doctors/Babcock.

(hence your confusion)

Komarov has never been a healthy scratch in the NHL...
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:16 pm He gave Tavares his word.

LMFAO
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Yeah, just wait until Dumbass tries to low-ball him like he's doing with Nylander.
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:19 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:54 am They added a franchise C and you guys are going on about a plug who was a healthy scratch in the playoffs. LOL you don't even want to dicuss the biggest signing any team has made in at least a dozen years. Leo Komorov, 19 points. What a stud!
UMMMMMMM.... you must have missed this post:
Strangelove wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:46 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm
Strangelove wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:41 am That's because Andersen performs well in the regular season (sucks in the post season).

Holtby is the opposite.

And don't forget their 2 best penalty-killing dmen were Polak and Hainsey.

Polak is gonzo with no replacement, and Hainsey succumbed to old age as the season wore on.

Also gone is their best penalty-killing forward Komarov (played centre on their #1 PK unit).

Meanwhile Tampa should be better defensively with a full year of McDonagh

... and Hedman having come into his own defensively down the stretch.

(most folks also expect young Vasilevskiy to continue improving)

Leaves neglecting the defensive side of the game will continue to be their downfall.

Did they learn nothing the last two playoffs? :eh:
LOL at trying to say the leaves are going to miss plugs Komorov and Polak.
We were talking about the Leaves defensive issues, the fact is those 2 were their best PK guys and: Gone.

(Hainsey was also a great PKer for them last year but he died of old age towards the end of the season)

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:20 pm Komorov was actually terrible last year and was not good defensively.
Nope, Komarov had a tough year offensively but was his usual stellar self defensively.

He, Polak, the recently deceased Hainsey, and the only-good-in-the-regular-season Andersen

... were the reasons for Leaves having one of the best regular season PKs in the league.

Of course their PK was the worst in the league post-season cuz Komarov was injured, Hainsey died, and Andy was Andy.


BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:20 pm The leaves did not give up a lot of goals last season. 3rd lowest in the EAst.
Leaves were 11th out of the 16 playoff teams in that category… in the regular season

… and 15th out of those same 16 teams in the playoffs.

Washington was 4th, Tampa 6th in the playoffs.

(other teams tighten up in the playoffs, Leaves are incapable of that)

Leaves gave up more shots than any of the other 16 teams that qualified for the playoffs

… and that trend cost them in the playoffs.

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm Only the leaves could sign the biggest UFA in the entire NHL in at leat a dozen years and a 4th line plug who got 19 points is who they will really miss.
4th line plug?? Actually Komarov has been playing top-6 minutes for the past few seasons.

Leaves brought in top line guy Tavares yes, but they also lost 3 of their top 9 forwards by icetime.

One of those 3 scored 36 goals, one was their best faceoff guy, and the other was by far their best defensive forward.

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm Johnsson is better overall esaily than Komorov.
So Johnsson with his 9 NHL games at 11:42 is going to magically replace one of the best defensive forwards in the league?? :lol:

Seriously, who replaces Komarov as the centre on the #1 PK unit?

BigTuna wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:20 pm Leo was a healthy scratch.
That's not true, Komarov missed 5.5 of the Leaves 7 playoff games with an ankle injury.

He declared himself fit for Game 7 but he was overruled by the team doctors/Babcock.

(hence your confusion)

Komarov has never been a healthy scratch in the NHL...
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I am sorry did you just call Komorov one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL? HAHAHA. His advanced stats were BRUTAL last year. Babcock played him far too much. Johnsson IS much better right now.

When a player leaves Toronto he sure becomes better doesn't he?

And BTW, you are wrong, Komorov was healthy for game 6 and 7. Johnsson could not come out. He was better. He also won the MVP in the Calder cup final for the Marlies.

https://www.tsn.ca/komarov-healthy-but- ... -1.1066491 (proof, he never played)



Guaranteed if Lou gave Leo that horrific 4 year/12 million salary with the leaves you'd be laughing. The WORST UFA contract signed this summer.
Go on any Leaf game thread anywhere, fans were screaming at Babcock for playing him so much. I was at the March 29th game between Winnipeg and Toronto. Leaf fans were screaming at how Leo was inexplicably on the 1st PP unit and Matthews was not.

Andreas Johnsson is so much better to have than Leo it's not even worth a debate. Komorov is finished. I really don't care how many goals Leo scored years ago he's a shell of his former self.

And Kadri is taking Bozak's role which is a big upgrade, and an upgrade defensively ironically. leaves are far better defensively down the middle now.

You failed to mention when talking defense is Bozak and JVR were by far the worst defensive forwards on the leaves.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:16 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:01 pm
micky107 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:40 am
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:53 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:35 pm
BigTuna wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:14 pm
Lancer wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:56 pm This era’s Maple leaves = WCE-era Canucks, with a much lesser blueline. Enjoy the regular season entertainment; the blueline and goal-line will only bring you post-season tears - especially when they have to face the likes of Tampa and Boston on the regular. It’s like Lucy with a football and Charlie Brown’s winding up for the kickoff.
What's going to happen when Boston has to match-up with Tavres/Matthews/Kadri every second in a playoff series?
Did you really say Kadri? Or was that a typo?
Yes. Kadri is ridiculous depth to have as your 3rd line C. No other team has that in the NHL. a 30 goal two-way C on the 3rd line.
The guy has talent but he also has a screw loose.
You think all what he does is by design?
No-way. He will cost you, every time.
Doesn't have enough self-control at his disposal for the last two minutes of a 1st round game seven.
That's just one reason why I only say 1st round.............................maybe...................if other teams falter.
Not only that; It's only a short matter of time before your American boy starts pining for the cacti.

Kadri is a 30 goal/60 point 2 way C making 4.5 million per and no team has anyone as good as him as the 3rd line C. Those 3 centres are going to be deadly to match-up against.

And please, drop the fantasy of Matthews wanting out. He gave Tavres his word he was committed long-term. Matthews wants to win. You can't do that in Arizona. The leaves also can pay Matthews. arizona is dead-broke.
He gave Tavares his word.

LMFAO

So what's the plan? When does Matthews bolt to Arizona? And will they be in Houston by then?

Funny how your theory is right but Matthews now just lied to Tavares and Matthews himself lied to the press and his agent lied to everyone...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mat ... e-tavares/
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Nevada has cacti too. Almost like home.
They're just not as tall and erect.
But in a pinch, (jinxed team), what the hey.
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micky107 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:40 pm Nevada has cacti too. Almost like home.
They're just not as tall and erect.
But in a pinch, (jinxed team), what the hey.
You dream about what may happen in 5 years and I'll be excited about watching the leaves as an elite cup contender.
Leaf get John Tavares, but who cares, Leo Komorov is gone!
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BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm I am sorry did you just call Komorov one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL?
I am sorry but Komarov is one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL...

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm His advanced stats were BRUTAL last year. Babcock played him far too much.
Babcock kept playing him in offensive situations far too much

So we agree Babcock sucks, good.

But Leo was fantastic on the PK, why?

Because he's one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL.

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm Johnsson IS much better right now.
Johnsson will be 24 in November and has played just 9 NHL games (on the fourth line!)

... get to hospital, you're ODing on the koolaid! :wow:

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm And BTW, you are wrong, Komorov was healthy for game 6 and 7. Johnsson could not come out. He was better. He also won the MVP in the Calder cup final for the Marlies.

https://www.tsn.ca/komarov-healthy-but- ... -1.1066491 (proof, he never played)
I'm wrong??

From your link:

"Babcock said Sunday the injured winger was at 85 per cent and had not been cleared for Game 6."

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Also on game day Game 7 Babcock said Komarov was not healthy enough to play.

(I posted a link to this in a conversation at HF, I'll find it later if I have time)

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm Guaranteed if Lou gave Leo that horrific 4 year/12 million salary with the leaves you'd be laughing.
Wrong, search the archives, I've never said anything against him.

Truth is he's always been one of those Leaves I kept wishing would just go away.

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm Go on any Leaf game thread anywhere, fans were screaming at Babcock for playing him so much. I was at the March 29th game between Winnipeg and Toronto. Leaf fans were screaming at how Leo was inexplicably on the 1st PP unit and Matthews was not.
Exactly, as I said Babcock was inexplicably playing Leo in offensive situations.

No doubt, because of Babcock, soon you and yours will go back to throwing jerseys on the ice...

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm Andreas Johnsson is so much better to have than Leo it's not even worth a debate. Komorov is finished. I really don't care how many goals Leo scored years ago he's a shell of his former self.
You're mainlining that koolaid aren't you! :crazy:

Perhaps Komarov will continue his slide offensively, perhaps he won't

... but he's still one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL.

Meanwhile we don't know yet if Johnsson will ever be a regular NHL player.

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm You failed to mention when talking defense is Bozak and JVR were by far the worst defensive forwards on the leaves.
Well the guys who replace them will likely be worse defensively.

And I did mention JVR... in response to your drooling over Tavares.

36 goals out, 37 goals in, big whoop.

Kadri will have lesser wingers this year so his numbers will no doubt go down.

He might also lose some power play time due to Tavares.

Bozak was Leaves best faceoff man...
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BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:04 pm So what's the plan? When does Matthews bolt to Arizona? And will they be in Houston by then?
Easy, Arizona signs him to an 8-year $15M-per offer sheet next summer and cheapass Dumbass (see Nylander) doesn't match.

BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:04 pm Funny how your theory is right but Matthews now just lied to Tavares and Matthews himself lied to the press and his agent lied to everyone...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mat ... e-tavares/
Did I hear that right??

"I would be happy to sign an 8-year $700K contract with the Leaves" - Auston Matthews

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In just a few scant minutes a Young boys journey to manhood will become fulfilled... His destiny taken into his own hands to live out his childhood dream, I implore all of u to take the time out and tune into this history making night... John Tavares is home... where he rightfully belongs wearing the Jersey of the TORONTO MAPLE LEAF... Now I know for some being an early game on the west coast some of u might be working although the amount of time a majority of people spend on this message board all hours of the day it screams social assistance not unlike the some who live on the Prairie...I'm not here to judge the Lax attitude of the people of British Columbia we are all friends and we can agree to live and let live... as long as those freeloader Birkenstock wearing hippies stay out of the ONTARIO we can all get along... 8-)

As far as Tonight is concerned it would be appreciated if we can get viral videos of people clapping for him coast to coast as he comes onto the ice maybe we could get these videos posted on various social media platforms... Tonight is a special night for the TORONTO MAPLE LEAF and their fans and make no mistake when u pronounce the MAPLE LEAF u leave off the (s)... It gives it more of a touch of ROYALTY NHL ROYALTY and sophistication in know means is it made to sound condescending or patronizing that is not the intention at all 8-)

Once again before puck drop if we could get people on the west coast with videos of yourself clapping during John Tavares first time on the ice wearing the jersey of the MAPLE LEAF it would show how united we are as a country for Hockey and the Blue Blood that courses through the veins of LEAF NATION and the fans of the TORONTO MAPLE LEAF enjoy the game 8-)
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For those of u less fortunate maybe couldn't afford to pay your cable provider this month or maybe u couldnt pay this month cause of the Phish concert coming to town and u chose to buy tickets and live the Life of leisure as a communal barefoot wearing westcoater indulging in the activities of that traveling roadshow outdoors in the rain or maybe you got chores to finish before the sun goes down on the PRAIRIE JT with his first of Many his first night as a member of THE TORONTO...MAPLE...LEAF enjoy 8-)

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BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:30 am
rats19 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:26 am Tuna wrote:
It will be a nightmare come playoff time.


Finally you understand...
Tavares will have no impact. Gotcha. They will lose every year. Matthews will never be better.
The could combine for 3 goals per game and it won't mean shit if the Leaves surrender 4 plus. Toronto only managed to win once when Boston scored at least 3 goals.
They will have sub 900 % each year...
Well the current starter in Tarrana has posted sub .900 in 40% of his playoff years, and if not for one 5 game stretch of hot play in 2016 his career average would be a .905. That's not exactly playoff round winning numbers. So yeah, it's totally possible that they end up with sub .900 goaltending.
...and Kadri will be suspended. Gotcha.
That is totally within the realm of possibility considering the way he plays and the total lack of respect for his fellow players and absence of self-control he exhibits on a regular basis. It's a miracle he hasn't been suspended even more times than he has.
And For Boston, 41 year-old Chara will be the same. No regression.
What does Boston have to do with this? I won't be surprised to see them miss the playoffs this season.
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BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:04 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:16 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:01 pm
micky107 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:40 am
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:53 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:35 pm
BigTuna wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:14 pm
Lancer wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:56 pm This era’s Maple leaves = WCE-era Canucks, with a much lesser blueline. Enjoy the regular season entertainment; the blueline and goal-line will only bring you post-season tears - especially when they have to face the likes of Tampa and Boston on the regular. It’s like Lucy with a football and Charlie Brown’s winding up for the kickoff.
What's going to happen when Boston has to match-up with Tavres/Matthews/Kadri every second in a playoff series?
Did you really say Kadri? Or was that a typo?
Yes. Kadri is ridiculous depth to have as your 3rd line C. No other team has that in the NHL. a 30 goal two-way C on the 3rd line.
The guy has talent but he also has a screw loose.
You think all what he does is by design?
No-way. He will cost you, every time.
Doesn't have enough self-control at his disposal for the last two minutes of a 1st round game seven.
That's just one reason why I only say 1st round.............................maybe...................if other teams falter.
Not only that; It's only a short matter of time before your American boy starts pining for the cacti.

Kadri is a 30 goal/60 point 2 way C making 4.5 million per and no team has anyone as good as him as the 3rd line C. Those 3 centres are going to be deadly to match-up against.

And please, drop the fantasy of Matthews wanting out. He gave Tavres his word he was committed long-term. Matthews wants to win. You can't do that in Arizona. The leaves also can pay Matthews. arizona is dead-broke.
He gave Tavares his word.

LMFAO

So what's the plan? When does Matthews bolt to Arizona? And will they be in Houston by then?

Funny how your theory is right but Matthews now just lied to Tavares and Matthews himself lied to the press and his agent lied to everyone...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mat ... e-tavares/
Are you saying that athletes all tell the truth to the media about their contract wishes and where they want to play?

Look no further than your own newly signed franchise center for evidence to the contrary. All along he indicated he wanted to stay with the Islanders if the contract was right.....then an hour after the free agent window opens he tells Snow that he's out and inks a deal with the Leaves. Kinda runs totally contrary to the message he was sending for over a year.

But yeah, word is binding. Matthews will sign for millions less than he could get elsewhere just to keep John-I'm-Living-My-Boyhood-Dream-Tavares happy.

Wake up Tuna.
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Tavares scores twice tonight, plan the parade.
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Reefer2 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:48 pm Tavares scores twice tonight, plan the parade.
LOL he looked dominant.
I don't think any of you are ready for how good this team will be.

The leaves PP is going to be cruel to the opposition.
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Mëds wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:56 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:04 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:16 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:01 pm
micky107 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:40 am
BigTuna wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:53 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:35 pm
BigTuna wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:14 pm

What's going to happen when Boston has to match-up with Tavres/Matthews/Kadri every second in a playoff series?
Did you really say Kadri? Or was that a typo?
Yes. Kadri is ridiculous depth to have as your 3rd line C. No other team has that in the NHL. a 30 goal two-way C on the 3rd line.
The guy has talent but he also has a screw loose.
You think all what he does is by design?
No-way. He will cost you, every time.
Doesn't have enough self-control at his disposal for the last two minutes of a 1st round game seven.
That's just one reason why I only say 1st round.............................maybe...................if other teams falter.
Not only that; It's only a short matter of time before your American boy starts pining for the cacti.


Kadri is a 30 goal/60 point 2 way C making 4.5 million per and no team has anyone as good as him as the 3rd line C. Those 3 centres are going to be deadly to match-up against.

And please, drop the fantasy of Matthews wanting out. He gave Tavres his word he was committed long-term. Matthews wants to win. You can't do that in Arizona. The leaves also can pay Matthews. arizona is dead-broke.
He gave Tavares his word.

LMFAO

So what's the plan? When does Matthews bolt to Arizona? And will they be in Houston by then?

Funny how your theory is right but Matthews now just lied to Tavares and Matthews himself lied to the press and his agent lied to everyone...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mat ... e-tavares/
Are you saying that athletes all tell the truth to the media about their contract wishes and where they want to play?

Look no further than your own newly signed franchise center for evidence to the contrary. All along he indicated he wanted to stay with the Islanders if the contract was right.....then an hour after the free agent window opens he tells Snow that he's out and inks a deal with the Leaves. Kinda runs totally contrary to the message he was sending for over a year.

But yeah, word is binding. Matthews will sign for millions less than he could get elsewhere just to keep John-I'm-Living-My-Boyhood-Dream-Tavares happy.

Wake up Tuna.
Are you seriously using Tavares as the example? He had Garth Snow as his GM his entire career there and they were a laughingstock of an organization that never got him the help he needed.What can Matthews say? He has made the playoffs his 1st two years and the team added a franchise C in his prime.

Islanders were a special kind of stupid to lose their star. That litterally never happends. Everyone stays. Toronto and New York have nothing in common. You really think if the leaves stink right now like the ISlanders did Tavares would have jonied the leaves? Of course not.

Wake up. You are delusional. Arizona is terrible and broke.
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